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For rudimentary version control, I am posting this updated .inf as a new post. I think I have correctly added all of the additional devices discovered and noted by everyone. I am not certain, as Stephen mentions whether the devices originally set to use the pclkusb.sys driver will function with the netmdusb760.sys driver, someone will need to test that functionality out.

Once we are in agreement that this config file is correct, perhaps we can re-zip all of the components and upload to the files section with a tutorial.

; Sony Net MD
; Copyright 2010 Sony Corporation

[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=USB
ClassGUID={36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
;CatalogFile=NETMD760.cat
CatalogFile.NT=NETMD760.cat
Provider=%NETMDUSB.Provider%
DriverVer=05/27/2010,1.4.00.05270

[ControlFlags]

; NetMD Devices
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1

; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1

; PC Link Devices (untested)
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT (should be the same as each other)


[Manufacturer]
%NETMDUSB.Manufacturer%=Sony,NTAMD64

; For Win2K and later
[Sony]

; NetMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1

; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1

; PC Link Devices (untested, originally used pclkusb.sys)
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT


; For Vista 64 and Win 7 64
[Sony.NTAMD64]

; NetMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1

; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1

; PC Link Devices (untested, originally used pclkusb.sys)
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%NETMDUSB.DriverDiskName%,,,

[SourceDisksFiles]
NETMD760.sys=1

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir = 10,System32\Drivers
NETMDUSB.CopyFiles = 10,System32\Drivers

[NETMDUSB.Dev.NT]
CopyFiles=NETMDUSB.CopyFiles
AddReg=NETMDUSB.AddReg

[NETMDUSB.Dev.NT.Services]
AddService = NETMD760, 0x00000002, NETMDUSB.AddService

[NETMDUSB.AddService]
DisplayName = %NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\NETMD760.sys

[NETMDUSB.AddReg]
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,,0x00000010,
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,"Name",,"Net MD Driver"
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,"Version",,"1.4.00.05270"

[NETMDUSB.CopyFiles]
NETMD760.sys

;---------------------------------------------------------------;

[Strings]
NETMDUSB.Provider = "Sony Corporation"
NETMDUSB.Manufacturer = "Sony Corporation"
NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc = "Net MD"
NETMDUSB.DriverDiskName = "Net MD Installation Disk"
NETMDUSB.DriverGUID = "SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Sony Corporation\Net MD\{12042ff7-8d00-4384-9a25-638918b94950}"
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Azureal,

Do you mean that if I overwrite the

c:\program files\sony\personal audio driver\NetMDUSB.inf file with the file you list above, my RH1 with a netMD disc inside will work on W7 64b ?

Now it doesn't, it only works with SS 4.3 on W7 when a Hi-MD disc is inserted.

Thanks for your help and commitment,

Thx JP, I use the driver to get my Net MD MZ-N707 working on Windows 2008.

Just modifed the inf file so...

.....

WolfWare

Forgot to add, worked a treat, first time :)

Oh Wolfware,

Like you, (as you said on your post 25th nove) I'd like to make my N707 run on SS 4.3 with W7.

The .inf you mention is that located in c:\program files\sony\Personal audio driver\

and named : NETMDUSB.inf?

Thanks :-)

:imsohappy:

MA (from France) :thank_you2:

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Feeling like a total noob reading all this,

USB\VID_054C&PID_0186&REV_0100

USB\VID_054C&PID_0186

Hardware IDs showing in Win7 32 Pro for my Hi-MD Walkman MZ-DH710, bought here in Canada from the Source but Sony support says was Latin Markets only, Puerto Rico, Central America, go figure where they source their stuff from :)

Trying to use the MP3 player function of the device but it's not showing up in explorer, wmp or anything but ss.

Drag and drop is supposed to work on this no?

I assume from the AMD386 portions of these edited .inf files that everything is still 64bit application or does the last one work for win32?

Impressive that you guys are still using this stuff as I have just lucked into a bunch of equipment and disks and like the way they work - sort of...

iPods just don't work for me, off hand what is the highest bit rate hat these devices support?

Cheers!

peter

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Epiphany, initialize disk as Hi-MD and voila! it shows up on explorer.

Now all I need is a HI-MD player for the stereo and all is good. Do all Hi-MD devices play MP3 files or is ATRAC the best resolution audio format for these?

Thanks!

P

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Feeling like a total noob reading all this,

USB\VID_054C&PID_0186&REV_0100

USB\VID_054C&PID_0186

Hardware IDs showing in Win7 32 Pro for my Hi-MD Walkman MZ-DH710, bought here in Canada

Drag and drop is supposed to work on this no?

If you are running W7-32bits everything should work. If the ID needs to be added to some .INF file, then you must add it. The ID only gets you NetMD function, which has

a. nothing to do with MP3

b. Nothing to do with HiMD

But you won't need that ridiculous wow6432node thing down at the bottom. Either fix that INF file to remove all the 64-bit stuff, and delete that piece of the registry key, OR (maybe easier) add your device to the "standard" INF file netmd033.inf (I think).

If you're not comfy hacking all that stuff come back to us and we'll try to guide you and/or post what you need.

I don't think the REV_0100 part of the device id, check? (someone who knows better about this than I do please chime in). If so then it's already thinking your DH710 is being seen as an NH600. So maybe you just need to find the "standard" setup drivers to get NetMD functionality. You do NOT need NetMD to talk to a HiMD formatted disk as you have discovered.

You can play back HiMD through the USB using Sonic Stage (assuming you don't want to upload). This will be as good as it ever gets. NetMD cannot be transferred to or played on the PC (except the RH1 allows you to transfer that format).

I think DH710 is able to play MP3 because it's a second gen (they all started life with an MP3 sticker prominently displayed) HiMD.

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Azureal,

Do you mean that if I overwrite the

c:\program files\sony\personal audio driver\NetMDUSB.inf file with the file you list above, my RH1 with a netMD disc inside will work on W7 64b ?

Now it doesn't, it only works with SS 4.3 on W7 when a Hi-MD disc is inserted.

Thanks for your help and commitment,

Oh Wolfware,

Like you, (as you said on your post 25th nove) I'd like to make my N707 run on SS 4.3 with W7.

The .inf you mention is that located in c:\program files\sony\Personal audio driver\

and named : NETMDUSB.inf?

Thanks :-)

:imsohappy:

MA (from France) :thank_you2:

mappec,

You don't need to overwrite any files manually. Just place the .sys, .cat and .inf files in any directory together and point to that directory when asked for the location of the new driver. Windows will copy the files to the correct location and make the appropriate registry modifications to load the driver for your device when it is plugged in to your machine.

I am working with sfbp to get the appropriate files with the updated .inf file uploaded into the drivers section of the forum.

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W7-32 works with SS 4.3 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX (actually the fantastic Avrin download "Ultimate" installer).

If it doesn't work for you, something is amiss.

What this means is you only need to do anything referred to in this thread for W64.

Stephen

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Hi !

Sorry if i did not get it, but i downloaded the files and replace the old one by yours (.txt in .inf ...) but my mz n710 is still not recognize by my computer. When I tell him which file he can find the drivers, it says that there are no drivers for my Walkman on the computer ... (Windows 7 64 family edition)

I don't really know what i'm doing so do you have any thougts ?

Thanks (and sorry for my english)

Fran

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Not sure (yet). Where is the netmd760.sys relative to the other files? You need these all in the same place

netmd760.sys

netmd760.cat

netmd760.inf (filenames are not case-sensitive in Windows)

Then tell the installer to look for netmd760.inf.

I know the PCLK stuff isn't going to work but I still don't have a 7-64 machine to test anything with. It also needs to get uploaded. So if we can get you working, probably I will do that (upload).

S

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Cool,

I guess i just did something wrong yesterday because i tried again this afternoon and it works just fine !

So (for Win 7 64bit):

- First I Pasted all last azureal post in a txt, renamed it in NETMD760.inf

- Then i plugged my Net Md (error sound)

- Peripheriques (plugs ? i don't know the English word) and locate the new driver

- The driver is not signed, so there is a error message ... whatever ... press ok

- It worked !

Thank you guys you're the best, i can't thank you enough !

EDIT : Arf, i just remember why i stopped using that *** Md, ... we can't download files we recorded .... how could i not remember that !!! Anyway, thanks !

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Sometimes you just have to know that you have it beat, and the computer will surprise you by cooperating :)

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Good evening board, I've been an avid minidisc enthusiast for the past few years and last night after getting home from work and having the urge to see if some solution has surfaced about this sonicstage 64-bit windows 7 nonsense and much to my surprise it's finally here!

Absolutely no idea how stoked I am, first shot I gave it, everything worked flawlessly. No more VMWare and Windows XP transfers.

THANK YOU!

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Hello everyone,

I wish you a happy new year ..

I need some enlightments ..

The modified driver-files you gave are meant to make a NetMD Device be recognized by W7 64b.

Is it OK ?

Another problem that I'd like to solve is the following :

When I plugg a Hi-MD device (Sony RH1) on my W7 computer, it depends on the type of MD which is inside.

If it is a Hi-MD disc, everything is all-right.

If it is a Net-MD disc, the device is not recognized.

I need to use my Sony Rh1 (Hi-MD device) to load the content of my Net-MD discs and copy them on the hard disc. I used to do that on my XP computer.

I wonder if the drivers you gave are the solution for this second problem .. ??????

Thank you for replying and helping ...

Mappec ;-)

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Yes the drivers are exactly responsible for solving both the problems you see.

Tell us how you get on, and meanwhile, Good Luck!

Stephen

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I have a NetMD MZ-N510. I cannot get any of the stuff to work sadly (Windows 7).

I had a look at MP3 players this week. None of them seem to be as good as old minidisc, even after all the time they've had. They all look sleek but battery life is appalling and sound quality questionable.

What is the INF file as a matter of interest and where do we find it? I have hunudreds of .inf files on my PC

Thanks

Wilsy

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You need to create one from Post #26. You also need the driver and cat files which are mentioned higher up....

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Hey, I've got a slightly different problem, but since I can't find any info elsewhere after hours of searching this is my last hope. Basically I've just installed windows 7 after having xp, but I'm having some problems with my Sony CMT-M33NT hi-fi. Basically I'm not interested in the MD functions but all I want to do is to get M-Crew running on my PC so I can control volume, and other aspects of my hi-fi via the pc.

The usb audio codec works fine and everything is okay in that respect, and with changing the compatability mode i've managed to get m-crew to run. But the problem is that it does not detect the hi-fi and therefore is useless. I've never encountered a problem like this before while using XP so I can only assume it is because of Windows 7. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I've installed all the drivers that I recieved with the hi-fi too, including the PcllkDrv which, I believe, is responsible for the USB connection and M-Crew. So it should really be working:-( Its a shame there's so little support for this software online.

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Nope. You will not get the PCLK driver running in native W64 mode.

You can install it to the virtual machine (XP-32), but for this you need Professional or Ultimate version of Windows 7.

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Thanks for your response.. Was wondering what you mean by "virtual machine" though? From what I remember i've used it before to boot up older operating systems within a different operating system. Do you mean i'll have to boot up xp on the virtual machine, install it on that, and then keep having to boot into the virtual machine to access m-crew?

Or am I way off and there is actually a way to make Windows 7 think I'm installing on XP when infact I can run it normally from Windows 7?

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You have it exactly right. You have to start the virtual XP mode. And you need the advanced versions of W7 before you can do that. It's a free download but only if you got the more expensive version(s).

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You have it exactly right. You have to start the virtual XP mode. And you need the advanced versions of W7 before you can do that. It's a free download but only if you got the more expensive version(s).

Okay thanks. So just to clarify, after installing M-Crew via the virtual machine, I WONT be able to access it through the normal Windows 7 environment and will have to keep booting into the virtual machine to open it?

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Okay thanks. So just to clarify, after installing M-Crew via the virtual machine, I WONT be able to access it through the normal Windows 7 environment and will have to keep booting into the virtual machine to open it?

Eggzactly.

Frankly I think it's a miracle you can even do that, when you contemplate the grand mystery of 64-bit addressing :) It's definitely not W7's fault, you would be fine in W7/32, and you would be completely out of luck in Vista 64.

Just a note: it's not MCrew per se but the USB driver which is the problem here.

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Eggzactly.

Frankly I think it's a miracle you can even do that, when you contemplate the grand mystery of 64-bit addressing :) It's definitely not W7's fault, you would be fine in W7/32, and you would be completely out of luck in Vista 64.

Just a note: it's not MCrew per se but the USB driver which is the problem here.

Lol its a shame really. As I really find the ability to change volume and switch to radio, cd, etc via the PC as essential.

Just to clarify though, I was trying to run it on Windows 7 Home Basic 32bit, as it was on a very very old AMD Athlon 2000+ PC, but it still didn't work. So I'm not sure this is just an issue with the 64bit version?

Am waiting for the Dell XPS 17 laptops to include a HD/3D screen and then I'll be getting one of those and, I presume, will be running a 64bit full version of Windows 7. Its a shame there's no proper way to solve this and I just wish there was an alternative way to adjust the volume, etc of the Hi-Fi rather than having to rely on an archaic, albeit useful, M-Crew :-)

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