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[chadergeist]

Original post is here:

http://forums.sonyin...post__p__178613


HERE (BELOW) IS THE REAL LINK TO THE PETITION

http://www.petitiono...1/petition.html

Edited by sfbp, 24 August 2011 - 12:42 AM.
added link back to author of petition

[PhilippeC]

8 !

[KJ_Palmer]

12 now - add your signatures folks!

[geekbrigade]

Thanks to the mod for moving the post, your help is much appreciated and thanks so much to everyone who has signed and hopefully the many more who will sign. I hope we get enough signatures to get Sony to change their minds, as far as I'm concerned, it would be awful if they give up completely.

I would like to see them go back to the start with Minidiscs, do the whole advertising thing (properly this time), market the units at a more sensible starting price than they did first time. I and I'm sure many others did buy several of the first few types of Minidisc recorder but I know that price is one of the major factors in people not even trying Minidisc technology. Personally, I knew so many people who wanted to find out more but were put off by the initial outlay required to buy a Minidisc recorder.

It's sad that it's come to this. Sony are giants in the A/V world and I have a lot of respect for them but I can't help feeling that they've not bothered very much about the Minidisc sector and as so many people have pointed out before, it could be huge! This tiny little case with a disc in that holds amazing quality music and could probably be expanded to fit so many other functions. They could have become a standard type of data storage for PCs, videos and I'm sure many more. Come on Sony, realise the potential!


Rant over, thanks for listening and sorry for the bleeding eardrums I may have caused but I am so passionate about this that I'm determined not to let it drop. Spread the word about the petition please and thanks again for your support!

[THIS SUCKS]

12 now - add your signatures folks!

14! just signed. with only 14 signatures sony wont give a rats ass!

[paperclip]

18 - I think it's futile but so is MiniDisc. FWIW I signed it.

[ShriDurga]

Even with a thousand, they wouldn't part with a rat turd.

[PhilippeC]

Even with a thousand, they wouldn't part with a rat turd.

Just dreaming, yeh !

[THIS SUCKS]

Even with a thousand, they wouldn't part with a rat turd.

a thousand signatures would be a good start. what i really want is a unit that can upload sp that is less than $150 the rh1 is too expensive!

[Chickenvenus]

I signed it, but I don't think it's going to changethe Sony decision to ditch MD.

I'd be interested though in getting a bunch of folk together to target existing AV forums that don't give MD a mention...

[geekbrigade]

It might not change their decision and if that's the case then so be it but I figured I'd give it a go anyway in the hope that they will actually listen to what the consumers want.


Chickenvenus, your suggestion of targetting non MD forums is one that I like.

[md user]

Done.

Added that SuperAudioMD is the future of recording!

:-D

[Chickenvenus]

Yes, we might as well sign it, as you should stick up for the things you like.
Super Audio MD, or SAHiMD, good idea MDMad.
;-)

I'm all for posting MD topics in various AV forums. Drop me a line.

[fourbanks]

were stuck with ipods as they are far cheaper to produce in china and most of Sony's plants are outside of japan

There is a worldwide market for mini disc that is true but it would mean a new company starting up and going back to the way the aiwa was built. Sony has always made life difficult for it's customers in one way or another blaming the EU and although that may be true in part they could have made things better like putting a optical output on their players so that the customer could transfer his music at all time in perfect condition

the very idea that people would abuse it i never saw that as a problem as we are awash with music from the INTERNET so who the hell would even need a copy of your music "no one"

Sony are way to powerful a company so like apple you'll get what your given and if you don't like they couldn't care less and as i have said the ipod is so cheep to make with good profits and that is all Sony will consider at the end of day and like apple nothing else

[geekbrigade]

Fourbanks, I totally respect your opinion and of course can see the logic in it. I feel that too many people have the same mindset though. At the end of the day, it is we, the consumer who pays the money for these products and if we settle for whatever they throw at us then yes, the companies can dictate what we get to own. On the other hand, if enough of us tell the company that we are not happy with what they're dishing out and that we're not going to be paying for the next line that they throw at us then ultimately they have to listen. If we don't pay for their stuff then they lose business to companies such as Apple.

In my opinion, this is why so many people are so unhappy with the products they're getting is because they never stand up for what they believe in. If more people told these big companies how unhappy they were and stuck to their guns then the company would have to do something. Sink or swim. Yes, Sony is huge but without people buying their products, how long will that last? A company cannot survive on reputation alone.

[RED SHIFT1]

Fourbanks, I totally respect your opinion and of course can see the logic in it. I feel that too many people have the same mindset though. At the end of the day, it is we, the consumer who pays the money for these products and if we settle for whatever they throw at us then yes, the companies can dictate what we get to own. On the other hand, if enough of us tell the company that we are not happy with what they're dishing out and that we're not going to be paying for the next line that they throw at us then ultimately they have to listen. If we don't pay for their stuff then they lose business to companies such as Apple.

In my opinion, this is why so many people are so unhappy with the products they're getting is because they never stand up for what they believe in. If more people told these big companies how unhappy they were and stuck to their guns then the company would have to do something. Sink or swim. Yes, Sony is huge but without people buying their products, how long will that last? A company cannot survive on reputation alone.

The problem here and with other such posts is: you are assuming that everyone wants a mindisc player. The base of customers interested in it is a small fraction of just the iPod base! Just recently I saw a report that nearly 300 milllion ipods have been sold since 2001!!! Somewhere there is statement here that Sony has sold some 22 million over 19 years...that is an average of 96,491 md units per year for Sony. Compare that to 2,500,000 per month for iPod.

I am not a businessman, but even I can see what the majority of audiophiles want...

There just simply is not enough customer base to warrant continuing the manfactuer MDs.

[culp4684]

I am not a businessman, but even I can see what the majority of audiophiles want...

There just simply is not enough customer base to warrant continuing the manfactuer MDs.

I think most actual audiophiles turn their noses up to any portable device using compressed audio.

That being said...you're straight on about the lack of customer base. I would go further to say that probably 1 out of 10 people today actually know what minidisc is.

I'd love to see it come back, but all electronic formats are limited in life. Something else will always come up to replace them...

[paranoicb]

i signed also the petition in place 61.
but.... its very small the number of people on the petition

$ony will laugh if will see this number

[sfbp]

I think most actual audiophiles turn their noses up to any portable device using compressed audio.

That's their ignorance, IMO. Mind you I notice your qualifier, "portable". Do they also say the same about MD decks?

24-bit floating point ATRAC will beat "pure" 16-bit CD any day of the week, especially if you have to edit it or process in any way at all.

And most everything since Type-R and possibly before, is FP Atrac.

[PhilippeC]

That's their ignorance, IMO. Mind you I notice your qualifier, "portable". Do they also say the same about MD decks?

24-bit floating point ATRAC will beat "pure" 16-bit CD any day of the week, especially if you have to edit it or process in any way at all.

And most everything since Type-R and possibly before, is FP Atrac.

What is FP Atrac ?