Sharp NetMD SonicStage+ File transfer
#1
Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:53 PM
Being a musician means I have technophobic tendendies. Can somebody explain step by step how to resolve this problem?
I have another PC with Windows 7 64 bit but understand SS is incompatible.
Thanks for any help.
Tony
#2
Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:24 PM
To transfer your recordings made in MDLP or SP mode, you need to playback on the recorder and then record in real time via sound card input on the PC.
This has always been the case, your reinstall did not cause the issue, you were never transferring anything via USB from MD to PC with your Sharp unit.
SonicStage does work well with Windows 7 using the SS 4.3 Ultimate version in the downloads section of the forums along with the 64 bit NetMD/Hi-MD driver package also available. There is a pinned thread which details the setup. It works great!
#3
Posted 23 December 2011 - 07:13 PM
I can't help, being an all-Sony shop.
#4
Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:13 PM
#5
Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:18 AM
I have only ever needed one way transfer of my own backin tracks - PC to MD.
From your posts I am assuming that nothing can done to restore USB transfer functionality. Real time recording via optical is not practical.
It is rather sad to think I cannot use what I considered to be a great piece of technology.
Tony
#6
Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:15 AM
1. I suspect that in our own downloads section is the right install file. Was your NetMD driver named MDSHA031.SYS, do you perhaps remember?
If so, look no further than this: http://forums.sonyin...51-sharp4xxzip/
2. The other possibility (you would have to look up the PID by poking about in Windows) would be to add the VID (04DD) and PID (if it isn't 9013 or 9014, in which case step 1 worked just fine) to the NETMD052.INF file and go ahead and install NETMD052.SYS as in my post here
3. If and when that works, thereby confirming that Sharp units use the standard Sony protocol, you should ALSO be able to get a 64-bit driver (for your Windows 7) going, by adding the same lines to NETMD076.INF. See here, and the current state of that file is in our downloads section too.
Either Azureal or myself would be around to help if you decided to attempt either 2. or 3.
Happy New Year!
Stephen
#7
Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:48 AM
Fix 1 has sucessfully worked on my XP machine.
I tried the same on my Windows 7 64 bit PC. However SS does not recognise my MD (No Net MD showing in Transfer). Did I need to load any other files other than SS Ultimate and Sharp4xx?
I've looked at your suggested fixes 2 & 3 but do not really understand as I am not knowledgable about the inner workings of PC's. Perhaps one of you could give me some guidance.
Thanks
Tony
#8
Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:45 AM
But you can test out W7 for us and we will try to add some sharp units in there (to our standard download) if that works.
You will need to add a couple of extra lines to NETMD760.INF (it has to be in two places, also as I don't know if yours needs 9013 or 9014 probably easiest to add both those, so 2 x2 for 4 lines in all). Take a look at the package and see if you can figure out what to do. The critical information is Vendor # and Model # (VID and PID).
The format of your lines is obvious from the context of the 760 driver. Note - there's no reference to any of the other stuff in your sharp .INF file.
Are you good with notepad? That's all you need.
Stephen
#9
Posted 01 January 2012 - 12:25 PM
Thanks
Tony
#10
Posted 01 January 2012 - 02:52 PM
Thanks
Tony
#11
Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:09 PM
Now extract the one file from the Sharp driver package that you need, namely mdsha031.inf, you can put it in the same directory where you have the others, if you look.
You now need to copy (using copy-and-paste is better because you won't mistype anything) the lines in the ControlFlags section, to the end of the same section in the netmd760.inf file. Note that 04DD appears to be the manufacturer's tag for Sharp (Sony is 054C).
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
Finally you need to copy the two lines that start with %NETMDUSB
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.INSTALL, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.INSTALL, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
To the equivalent place in the long list of supported units in the 760 file.
The only unknown part is here. You may want to put them in a separate section called [SHARP] or you may want to put them in the same section as the rest, which are all Sony. Actually I think it makes little difference because the label is only significant to one particular mode of the Windows device driver installer, the one where you can pick the devices by one manufacturer. If you don't put them in their own section you may have to pretend these are Sony devices at some point
Save the file (NETMD760.INF). (keep an unmodified copy just for safety, but the modified one must have the name NETMD760.INF).
Now try installing your device again. Probably a good idea to plug it in now. This may or may not mean removing stuff from the device manager. However the simplest route is probably to find the NetMD device and update it. We may have to go through this part slowly, as a lot depends on exactly what state the installer got stuck. When it comes to it, you will have to use the button which is labelled "Have disk", and then point the resulting dialog box at C:\temp (or wherever you stashed the files). That's why I suggested somewhere with a simple name, not buried under the "Documents and Settings" tree that My Documents is always stored under.
I realise this is a far-from-complete guide but hopefully it has enough to get you started. Azureal may be able to explain it better (hint hint).
Stephen
#12
Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:52 PM
I am going to go dig out my one and only Sharp unit now and play around a bit. I'll grab a few screen shots if I have success.
#13
Posted 02 January 2012 - 11:37 PM
It works great!
Windows 7 64bit tries to locate a driver for the USB device ID which it cannot find, hence you get the "Device driver was not successfully installed" error message.
The device manager initially places the Sharp DR80 under "Other Devices".
Drilling down on the NetMD device properties and locating the hardware ID string: USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
Using this data, I located the following three sections in the "NETMD760.inf" file and added the text below to each section (I think only two are required for 64 bit install)
Section 1:
[ControlFlags]
; Test Sharp Units
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014 ; DR80
Section 2:
; For Win2K and later
[Sony]
; Test Sharp Units
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014 ; DR80
Section 3:
; For Vista 64 and Win 7 64
[Sony.NTAMD64]
; Test Sharp Units
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014 ; DR80
Once the inf file is updated, right click on the NetMD device in Device Manager and select "Update Driver Software"
Next select "Browser my computer for driver software"
Use the "Browse" button to locate the driver files from the NETMD760 package which includes the recently modified inf file.
Click "Next"
You will be notified that the driver publisher cannot be verified, click "Install this driver software anyway"
If you are watching the Device Manager, you will see the NetMD icon move into the "USB Devices" section.
You should be good to go.
Remember, as Stephen mentioned, you need to determine the USB Device ID for your unit, the one listed above is for the Sharp unit I have the DR80.
I tried to attach a few screen shots I grabbed but I can't figure out how to include them in my post!
Try this out and let us know how it works, it seems like we can add at least some Sharp NetMD devices into the driver configuration.
#14
Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:37 AM
Nice work, Holmes!
#15
Posted 03 January 2012 - 05:03 AM
I realise that I am completely out of my depth. I'll see if any of my friends are able to help me action your information.
I'll keep you informed of progress.
Thanks
#16
Posted 07 January 2012 - 12:46 PM
SS 4.3 ULT + SONY drivers have sucessfully installed - I've tested with a friends MZ-N707.
I've cut and pasted from MDSHA031 to NETMD760. Now I still have a problem in that Windows 7 cannot find/recognise SHARP MD. I've looked in Devices & Printers and Device Manager.
Have you any further suggestions
Thanks
Tony
#17
Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:17 PM
Can you paste it here?
#18
Posted 07 January 2012 - 02:17 PM
; Sony Net MD
; Copyright 2010 Sony Corporation
[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=USB
ClassGUID={36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
;CatalogFile=NETMD760.cat
CatalogFile.NT=NETMD760.cat
Provider=%NETMDUSB.Provider%
DriverVer=05/27/2010,1.4.00.05270
[ControlFlags]
; NetMD Devices
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D/DH710
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10/M100
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910/M10
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1/M200
; PC Link Devices (untested)
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
ExcludeFromSelect=USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT (should be the same as each other)
[Manufacturer]
%NETMDUSB.Manufacturer%=Sony,NTAMD64
; For Win2K and later
[Sony]
; NetMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1
; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D/DH710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10/M100
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910/M10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1/M200
; PC Link Devices (untested, originally used pclkusb.sys)
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT
; For Vista 64 and Win 7 64
[Sony.NTAMD64]
; NetMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0075 ; MZ-N1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0080 ; LAM-1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0081 ; MDS-JB980
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0084 ; MZ-N505
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0085 ; MZ-S1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0086 ; MZ-N707
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C6 ; MZ-N10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C7 ; MZ-N910
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C8 ; MZ-NF810/N710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00C9 ; MZ-NF610/N510
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00CA ; MZ-NE410
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00EB ; MZ-NE910/NE810
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0188 ; MZ-N920
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0101 ; LAM-10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0113 ; AM-NX1
; NetMD configs for HiMD Devices
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_017E ; MZ-NH1
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0180 ; MZ-NH3D
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0182 ; MZ-NH900
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0184 ; MZ-NH800/NH700
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0186 ; MZ-NH600/NH600D/DH710
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_01E9 ; MZ-DH10P
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0219 ; MZ-RH10/M100
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_021B ; MZ-RH910/M10
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0286 ; MZ-RH1/M200
; PC Link Devices (untested, originally used pclkusb.sys)
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_0034 ; LINK KIT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_008E ; C7NT
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00AD ; L7HD
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_054C&PID_00E7 ; 333NT/373NT
; Sharp units
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013 ;Sharp 3xx/4xx
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014 ;Sharp latest?
[SourceDisksNames]
1=%NETMDUSB.DriverDiskName%,,,
[SourceDisksFiles]
NETMD760.sys=1
[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir = 10,System32\Drivers
NETMDUSB.CopyFiles = 10,System32\Drivers
[NETMDUSB.Dev.NT]
CopyFiles=NETMDUSB.CopyFiles
AddReg=NETMDUSB.AddReg
[NETMDUSB.Dev.NT.Services]
AddService = NETMD760, 0x00000002, NETMDUSB.AddService
[NETMDUSB.AddService]
DisplayName = %NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\NETMD760.sys
[NETMDUSB.AddReg]
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,,0x00000010,
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,"Name",,"Net MD Driver"
HKLM,%NETMDUSB.DriverGUID%,"Version",,"1.4.00.05270"
[NETMDUSB.CopyFiles]
NETMD760.sys
#19
Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:33 PM
So probably you have to plug in your device, find the "wrong' driver that you previously installed for it, and "Update Driver". Make sense?
#20
Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:18 PM
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.INSTALL, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.INSTALL, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
To this:
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9013
%NETMDUSB.DeviceDesc%=NETMDUSB.Dev, USB\VID_04DD&PID_9014
When I got it to work with my Sharp unit, I did not have the string "INSTALL" but had the string "Dev" in its place.
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