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Hello all,

Using Linux at home, I was faced with the problem that I could not tranfer MP3 files on my NW-E003F sony player...

So I created one of my own : http://sourceforge.net/projects/nwe00xmp3man

This is a Java software and the current version is 0.03. Seems to work quite well for now.

You will need Java 1.5 installed on the PC or the player itself to make NWE00xMp3FileManager work.

Also, you will need a clean copy of you OMGAUDIO folder on your player. If you lose it, you will have to use SonicStage to make another one...

(The folder initialisation will be soon incorporated in the NWE00xMp3FileManager player itself...)

*** BE WARNED ***

SonicStage won't work with the player if you use this software

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Features :

+ Import any mp3 from your hd (multiselection supported...)

+ Export any mp3 file from your player to your HD

+ Delete mp3 or any tracker on the player

+ Quite fast while tranfering

+ Works under Windows and Linux (should also work under Mac...)

Missing

- No ID Tag support (for now...)

- No Album support (for now...)

- No support for ATRAC/AAC/WMA (will come soon)

- No documentation yet (any volonteer?...)

- 255 files max...

To come...

+ Support for albums

+ More thant 255 files support...

+ Support for AAC/WMA

Your comments are welcomed...

Pat!

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I've got a problem using this software...i've pasted mp3 file manager inside but nokia application opens it when i double click... which program should i use to open that .jar file?

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I've got a problem using this software...i've pasted mp3 file manager inside but nokia application opens it when i double click... which program should i use to open that .jar file?

hi, skyInthesea, your name is very funny ahh...

hmmm...i think, this can help you to run or open the jar file..just follow the simple instruction below ok..

1.open the notepad application

2.just type " java -jar NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.xx.jar " in the notepad application.

3.save it as bat file(e.g: run.bat).put the file into same directory with the jar file..ok.

4.thats all

then...just double click on the bat file....

very simple right....ehehhehehheh...smile..

:wave::lol::D

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hi SkyInTheSea,

I've got a problem using this software...i've pasted mp3 file manager inside but nokia application opens it when i double click... which program should i use to open that .jar file?

Bummer! Your Nokia software as stolen the default lauching application for a JAR file.

You can use the suggestion of Jurin or you can reinstall the JRE 1.5 and it should bring back the default lauching application.

You can also open with "Open with..." and see if Java is there...

Pat

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hi

i am running Ubuntu Dapper with Sun Java 5.0 Runtime, the file NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar is on the root of the sony NW-E003.

I run the java app but it always says "????./OMGAUDIO ???" at the bottom of the screen...any idea what I am doing wrong?

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Hi tibbar,

hi

i am running Ubuntu Dapper with Sun Java 5.0 Runtime, the file NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar is on the root of the sony NW-E003.

I run the java app but it always says "????./OMGAUDIO ???" at the bottom of the screen...any idea what I am doing wrong?

The application is looking for the OMGAUDIO folder.

1 - To find it, it looks in ./ and ../ . Thus you must copy the application JAR at the root of the player (/media/usbmedia/)

2 - You have to have this folder "OMGAUDIO". You can use the OMGAUDIO.zip files from the optionals packages in the sourceforge project.

3 - Also, under linux, you have to execute the application from the root of the player. Simply double-clicking on the jar won't work because the launching directory will be your home folder "~/"...

See that HOWTO on the net : http://www.lynchconsulting.com.au/blog/ind...in-Linux--HOWTO

Pat

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hmm now i have a problem, i didnt close the app before removing the sony device from the usb slot, result was index is corrupted. formatting and reloading OMGAUDIO doesnt resolve this and the device says "NO DATA" after apparently copying mp3's across...known bug?

guess i will be stuck with sonicstage after all

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Hi tibbar,

hmm now i have a problem, i didnt close the app before removing the sony device from the usb slot, result was index is corrupted. formatting and reloading OMGAUDIO doesnt resolve this and the device says "NO DATA" after apparently copying mp3's across...known bug?

I have the same setup as you have...

1 - Always unmount the USB drive because it is possible that there is still data to be written even if the software is closed

2 - Be sure that the ehci_hcd is not loaded. It as been reported that support for USB drive 2,0 is broken

3 - That would explain the BSOD in VMWare...

On my setup, I have disabled the loading of ehci_hcd on my Ubuntu 6.06... You will be stuck in USB 1.1 but it will work.

To remove the ehci_hcd : as root :

Remove the player from the USB port...

rmmod ehci_hcd

Format the player with the internal menu

copy again the OMGAUDIO folder on it

and the software...

Then it should be working.

Remember, the longer the transfer the longer the buffer will take time to be emptied... This is not related to my software but to a problem in the kernel 2.6

This way, it should work!

Pat

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Hi tibbar,

I have the same setup as you have...

1 - Always unmount the USB drive because it is possible that there is still data to be written even if the software is closed

2 - Be sure that the ehci_hcd is not loaded. It as been reported that support for USB drive 2,0 is broken

3 - That would explain the BSOD in VMWare...

On my setup, I have disabled the loading of ehci_hcd on my Ubuntu 6.06... You will be stuck in USB 1.1 but it will work.

To remove the ehci_hcd : as root :

Remove the player from the USB port...

rmmod ehci_hcd

Format the player with the internal menu

copy again the OMGAUDIO folder on it

and the software...

Then it should be working.

Remember, the longer the transfer the longer the buffer will take time to be emptied... This is not related to my software but to a problem in the kernel 2.6

This way, it should work!

Pat

you were right on all counts, it's funny when i did umount /media/usbdisk after copying an album of mp3's it took a good 30 seconds to complete the umount, which as you say, explains the corruption.

Many thanks once again.

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one final question...all the artist names come out as "RunDMC" and from artist search mode the albums are called "Ghostbuster"...since none of my mp3 tags have this, is this a feature until you can implement the artist names in the database?

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hi tibbar,

one final question...all the artist names come out as "RunDMC" and from artist search mode the albums are called "Ghostbuster"...since none of my mp3 tags have this, is this a feature until you can implement the artist names in the database?

It was there in my own OMGAUDIO folder when I created the zip archve...

It was left by SonicStage.

Actually there is a lot of data that SS does not clean-up when you delete all tracks...

Pat

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Hi SkyInTheSea,

I tried to use this file manager but i don't have the copy only option which appears in your screenshot so I have no idea how to transfer songs into my mp3 :(

You don't have the FFMPEG.zip (or FFMPEG) available for NW-E00x Mp3 File Manager...

If you are using Windows, copy the FFMPEG-win32.zip from the sourceforge site and copy the content at the same place as the Mp3 File Manager... On the next start, you should see "FFMPEG support enabled"... With the "Copy only"...

Pat

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A file called "podcasts.txt" will be created by the software if it is not found. You can enter URL to podcasts in that file, one per line. The url must be poiting to the xml file of the podcast...

The next time you start NW-E00X Mp3 Manager, those urls will appear in the Podcasts tab... Click "Browse" to see the list of available MP3s. And as for files on the hard drive, clic "Add/Insert" to select them on your player. When you have selected all of your mp3s, click "Write" to download them directly to your player...

Sorry, I haven't tried a podcast before ...

I entered this URl: http://www.radionz.co.nz/podcasts/mediawatch.rss and clicked the + button. Then I clicked the browse button and 2 titles were displayed eg Mediawatch for 1 October (0.0 Mb) (Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:10:00 +1300).

I can click the 'add title to the player' button but I don't understand how I get the files onto the hard drive in order to 'Add/Insert'.

What do I do next?

By the way I am using Explorer 7

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Hi Alisam.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/podcasts/mediawatch.rss and clicked the + button. Then I clicked the browse button and 2 titles were displayed eg Mediawatch for 1 October (0.0 Mb) (Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:10:00 +1300).

I can click the 'add title to the player' button but I don't understand how I get the files onto the hard drive in order to 'Add/Insert'.

Once added you have to click the "Write" button at lower right to apply/download your selection...

Careful with podcast of size 0 MB, I never was able to download them. Maybe there is a bug that I have to check.

Pat

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Hi Alisam.

Once added you have to click the "Write" button at lower right to apply/download your selection...

Careful with podcast of size 0 MB, I never was able to download them. Maybe there is a bug that I have to check.

Pat

I think that because the size said 0 MB then I thought there was no point clicking on the 'Write' button.

Neverthless, I tried 2 options:

1) I clicked the Write button and sure enough the file was (presumably) downloaded directly from the site onto the Sony E005 player. It took a bit of finding but when I played the podcast back, it was though the voices were on fast forward.

2) I downloaded the postcast file onto my PC, deleted the file in 1) above and loaded the file via the Local tab. Finally, clicked the Write button. Again, the voices appeared to be on fast forward.

If I listen to the podcast by clicking on the 'Play selected titles' button in the File Manager (v0.10) then the podcast plays with the voices at normal speed.

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Hi alisam,

I think that because the size said 0 MB then I thought there was no point clicking on the 'Write' button.

Neverthless, I tried 2 options:

2) I downloaded the postcast file onto my PC, deleted the file in 1) above and loaded the file via the Local tab. Finally, clicked the Write button. Again, the voices appeared to be on fast forward.

Ok I see what is happening. The sony player is not fully compatible with all mp3 format/bitrate, etc...

It happens a lot with Podcast (and not only with Sony Player...).

What you need to do is to transcode the podcast manually on your hardrive or by using FFMPEG transcoding inside NW-E00x Mp3 File manager. Choose the diresred bitrate from the list "Copy Only" at the left of the write button.

Also, you file manager should show "FFMPEG support enabled". If not, then it means that FFMPEG.exe (under windows) was not found.

If you use Windows, download the FFMPEG-win32.zip file from the Optionals on the sourceforge project. Unzip it's content at the same place you installed the NW-E00xMp3FileManager.jar

When restarting the File Manager, you should now have the FFMPEG enabled...

Them, go to the podcasts tab, select the podcast to download on your player. Select a bitrate and click the "write" button.

What will happen is that the file will be transcoded as it is being downloaded to a more compatible format for the Sony Player.

You can do the same with files from your HD also...

Pat

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Ok I see what is happening. The sony player is not fully compatible with all mp3 format/bitrate, etc...

Them, go to the podcasts tab, select the podcast to download on your player. Select a bitrate and click the "write" button.

What will happen is that the file will be transcoded as it is being downloaded to a more compatible format for the Sony Player.

Thanks for that.

Information about the podcast mp3 file says 48kbps. I therefore used the MP3 64kbps setting. The result is much better. Listening through Shure E2G ear phones the voice is clear. However, there seems to be a backround noise. Its hard to describe, but its an electronic noise caused when the voice is talking (perhaps it is distortion). The noise is annoying but not unbearable.

After listening to the podcast via Windows Media Player, I think the electronic noise is still there but because I only have cheap speakers it is hard to tell.

PS I have never listened to a podcast before and so, I don't know whether I am expecting too much.

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Hi alisam,

After listening to the podcast via Windows Media Player, I think the electronic noise is still there but because I only have cheap speakers it is hard to tell.

PS I have never listened to a podcast before and so, I don't know whether I am expecting too much.

A MP3 at 48kbp is like of great quality, so transcoding and 48bps to 64kbps will not make it better. That's why you have this "electronic noise" from time to time. This is due to the compression of sound.

It can even happen on MP3 at higger bitrate with some music or sound even if the source was a wav.

A 48kbps is like AM radio... So don't expect to much...

Patrick

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First, i would like to thank you for your great work about this selfmade java software. You really deserve it.

I own a nw-e003 since 2 weeks and i'm fed up with SonicStage to tranfer mp3s on my walkman. I just understand that i bought a protected player and i can't just drop mp3s on it without Sony shitty software. So, i search on internet if some alternatives exist to remplace SS and i find this forum then your soft.

I just test it with some drum'n'bass mp3s. Sound lokes good, no skips to deplore for the moment (i listen to it in the same time !). Hope this stay like this.

After that, i found a winamp plugin named "ml_sony" which can make the transfert much easier to my walkman. In the setup readme, there is something like :

-If you have a protected player make sure you have at least ONE of the following :

*MP3FM correctly installed with a MP3FM/DvId.dat file :

see the official sony page about MP3 File Manager

I think that your software is an alternative of official MP3FM so i would like to know if you have already tested it with winamp. Maybe a solution already exists, if it's the case, please drop me a thread which talk about it.

Thanks again for your work.

Cheers.

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Hi dankec,

Hello Patrick!

What's the status of the program?

Any chance for a new version which will accept other models like mine NW-E507?

Things got a little slow in the developpment but we are still working on supporting NW-E50x...

ALL :

Don't worry, the project is not dead... Great things are coming...

Patrick

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Thnx for this great program! this is what i've been searching for some time.

only one problem..

i've got the NW-E005 with 2 GB, and i cant get more tracks on it than 225 or 13 albums.

when wil this be fixed? or is there a "trick" so that i can fix it myself? (i'm not a code btw.)

because now i have about 63mb of unused space :(

owyeah is it ok to fill in the size that windows show under 'properties>capacity' in the size.txt? (calculated from bytes to Kb ofcourse)

thats what i did, because the pre-calculated size in the txt will leave too much space "hidden"

Thnxx in advance

K.

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hi Outlaw_DragoN

Thnx for this great program! this is what i've been searching for some time.

only one problem..

i've got the NW-E005 with 2 GB, and i cant get more tracks on it than 225 or 13 albums.

when wil this be fixed? or is there a "trick" so that i can fix it myself? (i'm not a code btw.)

because now i have about 63mb of unused space :(

owyeah is it ok to fill in the size that windows show under 'properties>capacity' in the size.txt? (calculated from bytes to Kb ofcourse)

thats what i did, because the pre-calculated size in the txt will leave too much space "hidden"

Thnxx in advance

K.

There is not actual limit of titles or albums. It is suppose to support all the space that you have. And of course, you can edit the kb space in the playersize.txt file as you need. What I did is doubled the 1 gigs size for the 2 gigs size.

Your saying that if you have 14 albums, the 14th won't show up in the player?

I check that.

Thanks

Patrick

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Hi Patrick,

is there a chance that your awesome program might also support the new NW-S70X walkmans? That would be really great.

If you need something for that, let me know and I will send your want you need.

MCheiron

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