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Doesn't this do what you need?

http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Aureon_5.1_PCI_1988.html

I bought it for optical IN but it does optical out, I just checked by firing up Sonic Stage on my PC and recording onto the MZ-RH1 via Toslink cable.

This card cost me all of 12 quid (pounds). The only catch was I had to get my relatives in England to send to me because the shipping was 3x the cost of the card from the outlet found.

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Lots of laptops/desktops today have optical out. But not mine, I recently purchase sony vaio 64-bit vista. It has no optical out, so I use xitel USB adapter for optical out. I really like SP recordings from flac/ 320kbps MP3's. I have a few Hi-MD recorders but have not been able to switch to Hi-SP. So, I'll continue using my current setup.

I live in an apartment, so haven't been around getting a deck for SP recordings. Though, I recently purchased a SONY portable CD player with optical out to find out later that it cannot read CD-RW's. So, it is just sitting in the closet.

Any this do PC - Xitel USB - Optical recordings?

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Lots of laptops/desktops today have optical out. But not mine, I recently purchase sony vaio 64-bit vista. It has no optical out, so I use xitel USB adapter for optical out. I really like SP recordings from flac/ 320kbps MP3's. I have a few Hi-MD recorders but have not been able to switch to Hi-SP. So, I'll continue using my current setup.

I live in an apartment, so haven't been around getting a deck for SP recordings. Though, I recently purchased a SONY portable CD player with optical out to find out later that it cannot read CD-RW's. So, it is just sitting in the closet.

Any this do PC - Xitel USB - Optical recordings?

I was idly wondering today, looking at this http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/PP-3-Digital-Phono-Preamplifier

whether one could persuade HiMD to play back into whatever software is intended to catch the result of such a device (and there are turntables eg. Ion that have a USB plug and work similarly). This is a matter for the #linux-minidisc project, and I will ask them properly, though I sort of mentioned it in passing a week or two back.

Of course this is digital IN, not optical OUT, but no matter, it's in a common cause, especially now that more and more receivers (I just got one) have optical and/or coax SPDIF in (and in some cases out).

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I'd also like to record audio via my sound card's optical output (Creative X-Fi) using a MZ-RH1 recorder. The source is an old CD recorded in 1995.

I believe I've configured the playback devices correctly to the optical output port but every time I hit "record" (after playing back the CD) the main display shows "no digital recording" and the remote shows "no copy". I've read that this could be due to copy protection but my source is not a DVD but a CD.

I know the recorder works because I can record sound from my TV via optical out w/o problems.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

LE: Actually it doesn't matter if I record from the CD. I get the same message regardless if I play from the CD or sound from a youtube video.

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It may well be that the CD has the SCMS bit set. It's quite possible to make them this way. And in 1995 it may well be that somebody did, before Nero and other well-available software gave the option not to set it.

Bluecrab once sent me a CD he'd made with SCMS set. Sure enough I couldn't record it to MD.

IIRC many DVD players are this way (quite aside from the regional encoding encryption) with the hardware outputting the SCMS signal on the audio track, when playing a DVD. YMMV - generally the cheaper the player the less likely it will stick to SCMS rules :)

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I'd also like to record audio via my sound card's optical output (Creative X-Fi) using a MZ-RH1 recorder. The source is an old CD recorded in 1995.

I believe I've configured the playback devices correctly to the optical output port but every time I hit "record" (after playing back the CD) the main display shows "no digital recording" and the remote shows "no copy". I've read that this could be due to copy protection but my source is not a DVD but a CD.

I know the recorder works because I can record sound from my TV via optical out w/o problems.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

LE: Actually it doesn't matter if I record from the CD. I get the same message regardless if I play from the CD or sound from a youtube video.

I have myself a Creative Xi-Fi Platinium and I record all my MDs in real time with it (set the Crystallizer close to the maximum, 3D around 50-75%).

I use for that foobar2000 + Kernel streaming audio output + Post track silence plugins. With Winamp use rather Wincue. Before I was found with DFX audio enhancer but it is something that you cannot use with this X-Fi souncard (too much distorsion) if you listen to lossless quality music. On my laptop to DFX has is utility, specially with MP3 and movies.

Even with this SCMS protection, may be it still possible to get a lossless copy (I use the Exact Audio Copy shareware) on your computer ? And even if, everybody say that the analog copy sound better !

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How about the Behringer UCA202 and the older Edirol UA1-X, both relatively cheap USB devices with optical out.

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I've recently started using Optical for recording purposes. My computer (which is custom built) has an optical out on the motherboard, so its probably nothing fantastic, but it works fine. Although at first it wouldn't work. Then I changed the output from 96k to 48k (which is the lowest setting it gives me) and all was well.

I keep worrying about this "jitter" people seem to mention, though. Is it really that much of a problem, or is it redundant these days; the technology is much better than it was etc?

I'm also not using a "decent" or "expensive" optical cable, it literally cost me a pound or so on Amazon. People seem to be torn as to whether the quality of the cable actually makes a difference, ultimately I wasn't too concerned. If anything I wanted to make sure optical from the PC was something I could do and if needs be, I'll get a better cable.

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Ha, awesome that this still stands as a sticky!  :dirol:  Funny to remember back in the day when getting S/PDIF out of a PC was some kind of task/chore, often requiring buying other equipment.  Looks like I even commented again in 2006 saying this feature is standard on pretty much all PCs...  Today we're at the point where PCs are starting to drop S/PDIF outputs as they're now almost obsolete :lol: With HDMI commonplace S/PDIF has nearly (nearly) outlived its usefulness!  Of course MD itself is even more obsolete, heh ;)

 

Anyway to answer the above question (which is over a year old, I realise but I'm not exactly bumping this since it's a sticky), jitter is indeed a real phenomenon.  How much of a "problem" it is, IMO, depends on how much of an audio snob you are lol.  If one was worried about Toslink jitter, then you'd just use coaxial S/PDIF instead of optical, which would at least eliminate that part of the equation.  (Funny enough most gear these days that still have S/PDIF input or output support, do so via coax connections because they're cheaper than using Toslink transmitters/receivers.)

 

Of course using coax is still subject to jitter and the only way you get away from that is to not use S/PDIF at all, and use something that utilises stuff like I2C, HATS/PQLS, etc.  But then of course, other than pro gear, no MD units ever supported anything like that natively so it's moot.  Anyway if worried about jitter about the best thing you can do is use coax. instead I guess, but I doubt it's really that important to anyone here either way. 

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Late to this dance, but relevant in some cases. I recently inherited a Dell Latitude E5400 Laptop with Windows 7. This particular Dell and a few other Dell laptops have the ability to output S/PDIF coax. You use, of all things a 7-pin mini-DIN connector that is actually an S/Video connector. If you have a Dell laptop, it's worth checking to see if you have this somewhat odd configuration available. The cable/connector isn't expensive and it most definitely works.

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I forgot to check that SPDI/F detail when I bought a new laptop for my son. Damned.

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I got a non-genuine Xitel DG2 on eBay a while back but could not get it to do the "discrete mode track mark" jazz as mentioned in the original post. It was just a continuous signal (eg. redlight stays on even during track change). Does the genuine Xitel actually do it?

I mainly record mp3 from my PC to MD via digital optical out - is there a software solution that will let me get the "discrete recording track marks" without having to resort to kludges like the 4 second silence plugin in FooBar2000?

Thanks!

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On 31/5/2016 at 4:42 PM, Arr-Nine-Hundred said:

I got a non-genuine Xitel DG2 on eBay a while back but could not get it to do the "discrete mode track mark" jazz as mentioned in the original post. It was just a continuous signal (eg. redlight stays on even during track change). Does the genuine Xitel actually do it?

I mainly record mp3 from my PC to MD via digital optical out - is there a software solution that will let me get the "discrete recording track marks" without having to resort to kludges like the 4 second silence plugin in FooBar2000?

Thanks!

A Sony MZ-RH1 would read directly your MP3s.

I use for foobar2000 : foo_dsp_silence-0.0.5.fb2k-component

Post/pre-track silence

www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dsp_silence

I set it to 2s

 

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On 01/06/2016 at 10:56 AM, PhilippeC said:

A Sony MZ-RH1 would read directly your MP3s.

I use for foobar2000 : foo_dsp_silence-0.0.5.fb2k-component

Post/pre-track silence

www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dsp_silence

I set it to 2s

 

Thanks, just used that today with my JE770 deck and it works very well - I think recording to decks may work a bit better than portable recording units.

I've used this plugin in the past with Foobar2000 with portable recorders and always end up with rogue track marks.

Conclusion: recording mp3s from PC? Decks are where it's at!

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