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Ouch! If it was working before, it sounds like Windows update did this. Very sorry and if it turns out to be so, thanks for the warning.
I would
a. remove any NetMD completely from the system (unplug)
b. remove all NetMD drivers (the procedure is complex but it doesn't matter if your device is not plugged in)
c. run the restore program (SS install just put it on your menu) and see if that does anything.I really really hope you listened to all of us here and ran the File Conversion Tool every time you send any music to the PC. But with NT1 maybe not an issue.
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Brilliant. I think. I need time to digest but have house duties (set table) right now. BTW I think SC is Serial Control, ie the DB9 socket.
There's one setting in there that we haven't seen, which is both bits cleared, I think. So you have a three-state machine. We just acquired a new handyman who, on the recommendation of a friend fixed our tumble-drier. He being of Russian-Ukrainian parentage and growing up in Moldova highlighted for me the fact that there is the Western way (on or off), and the Russian way (on, off, or maybe).
I remember learning briefly about the Russian Ternary computer, too. Base 3.
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OK, so now i've raised the doubt in your mind.....
Raining in July? Reminds me of my teenage years and summers on the farm.
There are two bits in SCMS, you can see them on the Boehringer. One is called "original", the other "copy". There are thusly FOUR states:
Both set - this is after a new recording
Copy set and original cleared - from a copy
Original cleared and copy set - don't remember what this means... oh I know "CANNOT COPY"
BOTH CLEARED - this means there's no protection on the data at all. This is how I think data comes out of my sound card. The Ultramatch Pro allows you to set or clear either bit. -
Surely you want "inhibit"? That's effectively the setting on my Boehringer (the only device I have apart from PC Sound Card(s) which gives me that choice). I think if there is no copy bit and no original bit then copying is free and untrammeled. Setting permit means you get a standard 1-gen copy.
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That is so weird. All this time I've had it in my head that the E10/11/12 series are truly "Pro" that is, do not enforce SCMS. Yet the manual proclaims the reverse. And now I remember scratching my head in puzzlement as if to say "why charge all that money if it doesn't actually do second gen copies?". Now the MDS-B5 *definitely* always allowed copying (of course no MDLP). Sounds like they changed their minds, or something, after the model(s) was(were) released.
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Now I am completely confused. Can someone remind me what Upper and Lower Filters are for in the context of CD or DVD drive? Maybe it's as simple as reinstallation, then?
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You're saying DO NOT use "DVD Drive" but install "CD-Drive"? That makes perfect sense from the ages of the various products involved.
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Tried Windows 10
1. Have to run install program in XP-mode (usually a bad sign). Otherwise complains "not for this operating system" during install (InstallShield).
2. It now installs, and is forced to run under Administrator mode.
3. The NETMDSB service is running, but the main window of the program never shows upI looked in the registry and everything looks normal, scratching my head as to what's going on.
There are NO errors in the logs. Very strange.
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Not quite. It's virtual XP and MCrew runs but cannot rip (at least with a "normal" deck like the 770) from CD. In any event, Gracenote which used to run has been cut off by Nielsen, its new (and greedy?) owners, for Sonic Stage only.
Sonic Stage runs fine on the host Windows 7. It also is NEEDED to run Simple Burner (though I haven't checked out why, yet) on the virtual XP. I mean virtual SS, not the one on the host machine.
I will shortly check out Windows 32 on Windows 7 and Windows 10. My expectation is that SS will run, SB will not.
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Addendum: Simple Burner does NOT set the TrProtect flag, so I am fine transferring those files up to SonicStage in the normal way. Good stuff!
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Verrry inttteeerrrresting! But so stupid (me)....
Of course I previously gave up when I got an outright NETMDSB.EXE crash. Still the same. Knowing you had it working, on a hunch (guessing your configuration) I installed Sonic Stage Ultimate. AMAZING! Now SB doesn't crash on startup.
BTW the error you get is a xC0000005 which is Microsoft Win32-speak for a good ol' "ACCESS DENIED" error (5) under DOS and early windows versions. So I am guessing the SS install may have done not much more than set up some permissions correctly. Who cares? The SS install went smoothly enough.
So now it works just fine.
Just one small glitch had me fooled for a couple of minutes. Was resolved because I had the sound on and I heard the HiMD disconnect when I changed (CONFIG) the mode to writing NetMD. When you start the virtual machine, you will "Attach" the USB for the MD recorder via the XP Virtual Machine pulldown on the top bar. However, as pointed out (by myself and others) when you switch disks on a Hi-MD from NetMD to Hi-MD or vice-versa, it takes down the interface ("di-donk" sound) and puts up the other one with a different PID (donk-di). Unfortunately for XP Virtual it is necessary to RE-attach to the newly-presented device. Otherwise you will find the record window blank.
Another thing which surprised me was that the CD is read perfectly. Because on the same setup, I have been unable to persuade M-Crew to read the CD in my host PC's drive.
I'll report back shortly if M-Crew now works correctly - I am doubtful. Waiting for the NetMD transfer to finish. Update, M-Crew still cannot read the CD in the PC's drive. It can read the CD in a combo deck, but GraceNote is not able to get that data.
AND YESSSS - GraceNote works perfectly!
I see the main use of this is to use SonicStage (or Simple Burner) to make a HiMD disk (well, I could torture myself by using the RH1 on my main SS machine with a MDLP disk), and now transfer THIS from there to my main SS database, saving me typing in the metadata.
Thank you very much indeed.
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I'll definitely try that - sounds like the answer to prayer. I convinced myself that it did not work, but that was a long time ago when I was novice at 64-bits anything.
Thanks
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i'm pretty sure the direct access to NetMD in SB doesn't work past XP, but by all means clarify by Vista 32. I can scrape up W10 and W7 both 32 bits.
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Simple Burner doesn't work in 64-bits, of that I am sure. Whether it works in 32-bit W7 or W10 is an issue on which I could stand being enlightened!
BTW, to follow up, the ripping by M-Crew Server (to Hi-SP, 256Kbits Atrac3+) seemed fast. I don't know if that's good, or not
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Ok, a small add-on here. It seems that M-Crew Server is also still functional on Gracenote. So the BS they gave us about wanting us to use the new API is exactly that. BS. I think they turned off SonicStage because too many people were using it "for free" (ie Sony wasn't paying), that's all.
It raises for me the interesting possibility that one could pretend to be M-Crew (whilst running SS). Not sure how but I did find a bunch of registry entries for the Server. The manual is rather poor, and the GUI is appalling. But if you suck a CD into MCrew Server (2.5, the one we have here) you get a Hi-SP version of the OMA file which can be played by VLC, no further decryption needed. It has a good title, and good metadata (I didn't actually knuckle down and double check that yet).
M-Crew Server only runs on XP, I think, but maybe someone can be a pioneer and prove me wrong (as usual)!
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Definitely the sticky label at fault. This is my BIGGEST objection (and why I don't personally indulge) to the printed minidisc all-covering labels. I think they're really neat but I never want to have to go through what you've just experienced, again. Once was enough.
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Was it perhaps a Data MD? Not sure if they are a different shape. I'd be glad to see pics of the offending object if it's not too late. Rather curious.
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Please can you look at the numerous other posts asking this question first....?
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Nope. That has nothing to do with the R700 (and related, contemporaneous models). By RXX I understand R35, R50 etc.
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I might be wrong about this. I finally got around to checking the pinouts, and they are identical. My conclusion: maybe it's worth a try swapping that one in. What do you think, Gyula and Kevin (I think you had some dealings with the special MDM-7 used under remote control with the E12)?
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For NetMD you MUST have wall power to write properly.
If that's not your problem, please holler.
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No such luck, Alex. The 770 is designed to work with the PS/2 keyboard style of remote control using something called PCLK-MN10 and software known as M-Crew. It predates the 780 which along with the 980 is designed to work with USB remote control (I don't mean the handheld remote). They are different models, and I don't think they are compatible (MDM-7 and MDM-7S1A for the USB/NetMD machine)
Sorry.
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As an aside, I've definitely seen something like this with 1GB disks in a portable recorder that is misbehaving itself. Result, a disk that cannot even be formatted.
Sony MDS-E10 defeats SCMS
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What (where) are GC and UC? These are apparently new designations of market destinations I have never seen before. Used to E, AEP, US etc....
Looks like your theory about some markets allowing it might just be accurate.
BTW with "permit" sounds like SCMS bits (original, copy) are BOTH cleared, like on my Boehringer. Can you confirm this in some way by looking at bit patterns in waveform? (sorry I don't mean to make work just for the sake of it).