Well thankyou for all the replies they were very helpful Well I followed the instructions using the GYM key wizard, Sonic Stage and my HW-HD5 and I managed to recover all of my mp3's from my HW-HD5 without any problems. The only files I did loose were the cd's which I had loaded onto my HW-HD5 and converted into atrac. Thats ok as I still have the cd's. So I would like to say thanks to everyone who had help in developing GYM and up yours Sony for not developing a program to do what GYM does.