hey guys thanks for the replies when i actually got the player it was in perfect condition it had scratches in it but nothing really bad any way i have been trying to gt it to work and ive had partial success i formatted it and initialised the hard disk the player seems only to work perfectly when the screen is pressed just below the buttons im thinkin maybe a loose wire anyway as a temporary fix i folded and placed a piece of paper in the place where you have to press the screen down i opened the case and placed the paper there and then put it back together and now it works but im a little worried tht it might be putting pressure on the player and may cause something else 2 break so im using it as a temporary fix im gonna try to reason with my local sony centre (ilford) tht i know the problem and ask them to fix it if not ill just have 2 leave the paper in thjere but hey it works and it was 20 quid! thats a pound per gb thts what u call value for money anyway if any1 has had this problem or knows another kind of fix please reply to this post thank you in advance