I recently broke my NW-E407 (before that I’d had two NW-MS77 and one NW-MS70), which I thought was wonderful and did everything I wanted it to, but because something that seemed better was available, I choose to upgrade to an a NW-A608, purely on the fact that it had the extra gig . . . But too my shock it seemed that with this new player Sony have scrapped the ideas of groups and gone towards the idea of albums - which is fine - if they would let me order them myself which I cant, as most of you no doubt know, it orders them alphabetically by album name - which is just annoying. So today I had lots of attempts to try and get it to do groups but to no avail; the two attempts I tried were: - Converting a group (in SS) to a playlist on the player - was unable to do this, does anyone know how? - Downgrading my firmware to an NW-E507 - this didn’t seem to work despite Sony's firmware app uploading the old firmware, or seeming to, to the player the only difference was the fact that I lost intelligent shuffle (after going back to the NW-A608 1.01 firmware I still cant get intelligent shuffle back) So my four main questions are; - Groups on the '608; possible? - Converting groups to Playlists on SS? - Is it possible to downgrade the firmware on the '608 to a model which supports groups? - Any reason why after going back to the original firmware the player won’t do intelligent shuffle? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me, Andy Jones (Sorry for the slightly long post)