Here I am again! Well, cannot get CDDB thru either Simple Burner or OpenMG BUT I have found a way to get track info - have downloaded free RealOne Player which works like a charm. Only prob is you have to work in real time rather than high speed, but you can play your CD, save tracks with info to a Library, then download the library to your MD. Bit more tedious but works well. You might like to try it, mdvirgin! cheers Nutkin