Amen. I'm still using a MZ-R50 to make birdsong recordings (not good quality, but good enough for later identification when I can't identify the bird). I'd really hoped to get something newer with higher capacity, that I could leave running longterm. So -- for us Mac OSX users -- can anyone recommend any other kind of device that's compatible and not a can of worms, for moving sounds to the Mac under OSX, and for moving sounds to the recorder? At this point I don't think there's anything made in the minidisc range, and I don't know if any of the newer devices are any less messed up userwise. If there's a short clear summary somewhere of any minidisc devices of any type that do work well with OSX, I'd appreciate a pointer as well. I expect I'll wait til fall and buy one of these: http://froglogger.coquipr.com/