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Hi All, I'm looking for the best way to edit tracks using SS. 1) Can track marks be added from SS vs by hand? The book does not mention any methods. 2) After a recording has been made, is their a way to rename tracks as a batch job? 3) How do I FF thru a recording to find gaps before exporting to PC. I know this can be done after the fact from the library but would like to edit before exporting. If this topic has been discussed in the past a link to the discussion will suffice. BTW, I did do a search on this topic and got a lots of hits but found no matches. Thanks in advance for your help - Nito

Hi All, Dex asked that I start a discussion and get user input directly from the forum. I'll need the following specs and a user(s) who have file transfer problems to do trial and error work if they are interested. HiMD 1) Model 2) Recording method used for failed file transfers 3) Version of SS 4) Does it play on HiMD. Test tracks. 5) Does it play on SS. Test tracks. 6) Don't edit prior to transfer. Minimize possible areas of error. 7) Do you connect power adapter when transfering files. 8) Which compression level are you using during recordings. PC 1) Which OS are you using. 2) Do you have a bare system to test with. Minimize possible software conflicts 3) What chipset do you have on MB 4) What sound card do you have. 5) USB 1.1 or 2.0, Onboard or add on card 6) AV, on or off 7) Firewall, on or off 8) Do you have a tangle of wire or wires bundled 9) Besides file transfers, do you have any other problems with SS. 10) What error messages if any do you get. 11) Does SS hang during transfer or stops completely 12) Do you have the progress window open These are all the question I can think of but may have more in the future. Thanks Nito

Hi Dex, Try this. 1) create a test file. 2) do not edit test file. 3) do not connect power supply to HiMD. 4) Transfer file. If that works, create another test file, edit test file and transfer. SS just crashed on me and the only difference versus past trials was the editing and connection to the power adapter. I am thinking it is the chokes that is damaging the files. Nito

Hi Dex, If you are absolutely sure it is not the hardware and the problem is software, here is the criteria to follow: 1) What OS does the highest freq of failure occur? 2) What other software packages are installed on the PCs? 3) Has anyone who has had the failure tried it on a bare PC? Only video, sound, patches, network, and SS installed? 4) If you are running win 98SE, ME, or Win 2k try running regclean. IF nothing else it may fix other problems. Nito

Hi Dex, I know this is a pain, but our only recourse is trial and error. 1) Does it only happen with large files? 2) Have you tried another USB port? 3) Have you tried a different USB cable? 4) Is the USB port you are using on board or an add on card? 5) Are any external media readers available that can reader HiMD or MD? 6) Have you tried adding the extra chokes to the USB cable? 7) Have you tried to format the disk? I know it adds wear and tear to the disk, but the media may be bad. Nito

Hi Dex, Thanks for commenting. In my experience with USB, sometimes the transfer gets hung up. An example would be if you had a source causing interference, you had a large CPU load spike (AV self scan) that caused transfer to be interupted, or in my case USB 1.1 on PC (buffering). The USB hang is not common but it does happen especailly when a large amount of data is being transferred to slow devices or vice a versa. This is why external HD first came out on firewire then on USB 2.0, USB 1.1 was to slow and ran into buffer problems. Don't quote me on the last part, just my understanding. Another way to explain this is during the early days of CDR, if a buffer problem occurred during transfer, the end product was a coaster. On another note, is there a setting for buffering inside SS? Thanks - Nito

yes, file outside folder do not get replicated. As for file deletion, it only occurs on the second upload attempt. Location of the file is not a consideration. Nito

Dex & Qwakrz, I have tried multiple files under multiple folders now with unusual results. My files and folders are no longer being deleted by SS. Knock on wood, I prefer to do my own deletions. As for people who lose files when using SS and the reason for my discussion. I think this is due to the system hanging during transfer and the file tranfer being incomplete when the user disconnects the unit thus destroying all records. Have a good week and thanks for all the replies - Nito

Dex, I just checked you are right about the folder file combination. However, I am able to upload a file by clicking on the open folder (not the file) and maintain a copy of the original source file on the HiMD. Please note, when I transfer the folder, the folder is deleted from HiMD, but the original source file appears as a seperate track in HiMD. I have not yet tried this for multiple tracks within a folder. BTW, I read a post about someone trying to read files tranferred to a CF. Are their media readers available that can read a HiMD and copy files? I looked but could not find the post again. Thanks for the replies - Nito

Dex, Here is the link in Yahoo photos. Nito yahoo picture index here Go to View Transfer HiMD Right Click and rename New folder and sub file created, double click new folder to see. Highlight new renamed folder (not the file) and click transfer

Hi Dex, I'll replicate the steps taken for file duplication and take some screen shot. Do you have an email I can forward to or provide instruction for adding screen shots to postings. Hopefully you will be able to confirm - Nito

Dex, Thanks for replying. I am renaming from within Sonic Stage not on the HiMD unit. Steps for renaming: 1) Click view. 2) Select transfer HiMD. 3) Highlight test file. 4) right click and type new file name with highlighted box. 5) enter, once I press enter a sub file appears as untitled but main folder has new name. Thank - Nito

Goodnews after reading Dex's info, I purchased a HiMD model 800 to experiment with and accidentally found a quick way to backup a recording. Can someone or some group confirm results and upon confirmation write a faq. Specifications: HiMD model 800 Sonic Stage V2.2 HiMDrender 3.0 Win 2K Steps taken 1) Start Sonic Stage. 2) View transfer HiMD. 3) Right click and rename file. This seems to create a duplicate file. 4) Highlight renamed file and press transfer arrow. 5) Important, do not close transfer progress window. This maybe the reason so many people lose files while transfering. I noticed a short hang time when the unit seemed to have finished file transfer. 6) Start HiMDrender and specify file and output folder. 7) Render. 8) Played wav file to confirm recording. 9) Shut down PC, disconnected PC speaker and attached to HiMD. 10) Played file. Good luck Nito

Thank you Dex! Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy with exams.

Hello and thanks for the reply. Just so you don't misunderstand, I have 3 lecture that I want to record and each class is 1.25 hour long. As for the transfer rate, can you be a little more exact. I think you are refering to Sony's file transfer utility. I have not read of any limit for HiMDrender. You are correct, I'm a newbie and trying to learn as much as possible before making a purchase. BTW, I read in another post that HiMDrender may be able to encode to MP3 or other format usable by other players. It would be nice to fit a few lectures onto disk and review while driving. Thanks in advance Nito

Hello All, I am interested in HiMD and I have the same question as Mr O. I'm a student and I record 3.5 hours of lecture 3 times a week. So transfer rate is an important issue. I have read that HiMDrender is faster than realtime but how much faster, 100x or 2x or something inbetween? Since HiMDrender works through direct show, I am guessing that the file is not being decode, but resampled. Therefore, does HiMDrender create seperate wav file for each track or a single large file for all recordings? I'm guessing seperate files but don't want to assume. Given it creates seperate files and the user knows the amount of dead air in each track prior to the beginning of lecture, can switches be enabled to skip the ?:?? minutes per track (as the hall is settling down). Thanks in advance - Nito