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well until i get a preamp for the mic i cant truly tell. anyway took like 3hrs for sound forge to normalize just over 2hrs recording to a high level and it sounded just like it would off md. just need to find a cheap small preamp, i aint paying 80 quid for a tiny box from the states.

Hmmm, could be right, here is my mic and bat module... http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmbinstermic.htm http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmcbmminminc.htm An example of my recordings would be: http://akj.org/multimedia/Australia/2005/2...0ausa021wed.mp3 Prob dont mean much to you but its a significant nice for us, just mean to demonstrate the type of recording i do and sound quality i get/expect. May take you up on that suggestion and replace that bat module i have with the one you suggested. Thing is i really dont want to fiddle with levels and stuff. I just want to plug it in and get a loud input vol, any suggestions with regards to automatic? Also check out this store, these are incredibly cheap compared to MM and SP, and they are also very good, although you might not think so. http://stores.ebay.com/MICROSOUND-INC

These jokers need to stop playing musical topics with this thread.... Has this dicussion with sound pro and micmad guys quite some time when i was researching this in the first place. They said that the bat module with mic should power the mic and bring the signal high enough. Which is true, but NOT to line level hence the need for a pre-amp. They both stated they dont have a pre-amp / bat module all in one. like with the s700 i find line-in mic/bat mod is quite, on my hi-md i always use mic/batmod into the mic-in and its purrrrrrfect. But like i said before s700 line in is far to quiet, you will either need preamp or normalize the audio once you upload it. If you ever hear of a preamp bat module all in one let me know I guess your screwed then....

Eh? I'm sorry but can anyone think of a scenario where you'd want to record for longer than 12hrs straight? - i.e. beat my recording time?

No trackmarks during recording, you have to hit pause and play to start a new track. Yes it is clunkyish, all just about fits into those sony walkman grey mini pouch things you get. In there I have the usb cable, mic/cable, recording cable with coupler attached and bat module. No adjustment or readout which yeah sucks, but these days im pretty good at my mic placement so just hit record and dump it and dont come back till 8hrs when the MD needs changing. And yeah shame you cant replace battery, I wont be recording for more than 11hrs at a time (@256K) so hopefully I will be fine. Shame they havn't said the recording time battery life, im guessing 15hrs? As for your pre-amps, yeah but I dont want yet another box to stick in the bag, is there such a thing as a bat module/pre-amp all in one? Until i've sorted this problem i'm just gonna have to normalize recordings. AC adapter, just looked at the accessorie thread on atraclife once more and yes they do have an ac adapter on a cradel coming out. <------> This is important, looks like their might be potential to put tracks onto the player without use of SS, if you drag drop some files into the recording folder and edit the dat files accordingly im betting the player will play them. had a quick go but no go just yet. No you cant, power comes through wm-port so no recording and charging at same time.

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Sucess.. bare with me, here goes the long journey, got the recording cable imported for egay, then got a 3.5stereo coupler. The recording cable as states does have the level control. Only after I got these 2 did I bother getting the s700 as I could have sold these on ebay and there was no point getting the s700 until i had got all the tools. Main concern was you couldnt upload your recordings like MD, esp as the manual I downloaded off here has no mention of it. So got the s700 4gb black from sony centre here in UK who had extra 10% off this weekend, so only cost £135, (I SAY ONLY!). Plug in the recording cable only then gives you the menu options to record, you can record atrac 128/256 pcm. atrac 256 is my preference therefore I think the display said 35hrs roughly so for when I go on my recording trips thats about 3 days of recordings which should just about cut it. YOU CAN ONLY RECHARGE VIA LAPTOP i.e. usb, this needs to be sorted! Recording atrac 256 from my MD for a few mins with volume on MD on full, then from my mic with bat module for a few mins... SHOCK HORROR, the tracks are not availabe in SS to upload. I thought all hope was lost. BUT NO, its far far better than MD, the tracks are viewable in explorer as OMA/PCM files that you simply drag drop to your PC. then drag drop into SS and export to wav, it had no problem doing this, then you can make your mp3's. Only serious problem was that the recording level was quite poor and quiet, however as stated above once I got it into wav i normalized the wav and it sounded 'right' brought up the level nicly, same goes for the mic recording all though I really need to test the mic recording a bit more. SO YES MD replacement is here, you can just either go through normalizing the audio post-upload or what I'm looking for is a pre-amp/batery module all in one, any help?

I preferr MD too, just need longer than 8hr recording at a time and need reliable better battery. C'mon above guy, you said you have the unit... what were your results? A440, My bro in law does his live recordings on his ifp-999 1gb, has mic-in via software. Its a shame theres not a single small decent player with decent capacity that has a mic-in for recording. I reckon if somone had the balls to make one again they'd make a killing and I'd give my MD up for it. Made some inquiries into the S706, available at sony centres in UK for £150, I gave them a call to ask them for their return policy and they said if ive opened the box i.e. tried it they wont refund me if i returned so rather not take the risk. But then again can they really do that or they just trying to scare me off for messing about. Anyway another sony centre i called, the guy specifically said you CANNOT upload the s700 recordings, god knows if thats from experience as most sales staff in stores like this are as bout as knowledgeable in what they sell as dixons staff!

C'mon guys its been a while now, does it let you upload recordings to PC and then convert to wave or not?

A440, thanks for your response. Yes I looked at the iriver T30 and am frankly dissapointed as to how they effectively made it stupid. 1) you can only get the 2gb T30 from AU 2) The only iriver that they made right was the ifp-999. This was effectively the perfect hi-md replacement. the line in via onboard software could be switched to mic-in, the problem here is the poor capacity of 1gb. But it could record only 1gb, im considering buying a second hand one and cutting my losses with all this messing about. I have seen the 320 of course however like you said, its massive, easily breakable and doesn't match the portability of MD or the ifp-999, its only got hdd going for it. Flash is the future, better battery and I only need over 2gb capacity (4gb ideal, willing to live with 2). I'm still compromising going this proposed sony route as im totally dependant on the level switch increasing the level of the mic(combined with bat module) to be at line level. But lets see if the software side at least matches Hi-MD....go on heathi....? The other near alternative to the ifp-999 or t30 is the iaudio g3, again the problem here is no mic-in, need to bring the mic signal to line level. You ask why such an ancient flash iaudio, because any subsequent ones dont let you record higher than 128k, g3 is the last. Yes looked at the professional flash recorders like edrol, maratz (however you spell them), although they have the mic-in, they all are pathetic in portability terms, batt only lasts like 4hrs. Sad that no manufacturer has jumped onto this nice, a flash based mp3 player with mic-in. If only iriver made the ifp-999 now i bet it would have been 4gb...

Excellent, that was incredibly useful. Please let me know if you were able to upload your 256k and convert to wav? Dont worry about the line in cable, despite what atraclife.com said about the accessories only being available in JP, i dont think it will take to much longer for them to be available to us (im in UK). Examine... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=300041054500 Once you have confirmed/denied the above, I will buy the s600 ideally as I dont want those proprietary (however you spell it) headphones. Combined with the above cable and slap on a male to female converter, then plug in my powered mic, i'm praying the volume level will be good enough for me to do my live recordings. My current mic using the line-in on my RH10 is nearly as loud as the mic-in provided I have the line-in set to full. I'd like to then test this compared to the md. If all goes well, I will buy the 4gb one of this and can kiss my MD good bye.... the whole benefit of this being I can record for like 30hrs! Do you have the ability to make track marks (of recordings during recording/playback) like on the MD???

wow i guess MD is dead... not even some negative comment to even say its never going to work!

Basically, been a long time MD user (R50 was the best MD EVER!).. I need to record for longer than the 8hrs that the hi-md affords me, better battery, but same functionality. The only thing that comes close to MD is the old old discontinued iriver ifp-999 that is limited to 1gb, might aswell stick with MD. But has sony come out with a solution????? The s700 walkmans? http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/p...roducts_id=1846 Combined with the WMC-NWR1 recording cable I can put a converter on the end and plug in my mic with the battery module and still do my live recordings.... http://www.atraclife.com/2006/10/12/new-wa...00fs600-series/ Sounds like a plan, BUT does anyone know if the recordings i make using the line-in can be uploaded by SS then converted to whatever? Any mention of bitrate?? All the reviews so far are rubbish and only cover the most mundane of users, we are MD users and actually need decent info So has anyone had a chance to try this theroy out yet as I certainly dont want to spend 200 on the player then another 20 shipping that cable over from canada only to find out 1) might not be able to upload 2) line in level even with bat module of my mic isnt good enough to do a loud live recording. Also what do you think of the plan?

well as u can see im new. the track was recorded from mic in on the md. how rubbish is that! this was the first time i was copying this particular track. but rather than hitting the transfer button i just did a drag and drop. not only did the track not come on the pc, but it also removed it from the md. completley rubbish, i used to love md but its gradulay got worse as they have tried to make it better yes like i have nothing else 2 do but to read the sony manual, i thought i was inteligent enough after 5yrs of mds to just pick it up and record, i guess u need to read the manuals now to find out how bad md has become. they should remove all this upload business cos its clearly not right. lol i really gonna get a hdd player now, i had enough, every time now something goes wrong with the mds now. like the first dissapointment was my recordings would go quiet when there was instances of alot of bass, ithink i solved that by turning off the loud music preset. but i really had enough now. i hate hdd players just cos they r hdds. shame somone cant adapt a MD to record in ogg or flac. and just drag and drop the file, non of this ss waste in between, just no need.

I dragged a track accross from my hi-md to the PC rather than using the transfer button. NOt only did the track not copy but it deleted from the MD. I WANT IT BACK any useful advice this is really urgent. if i dont get this back my 5yrs of MD'ing will go and my 200 mds full of recordings will go opensourced and kept on a hdd player. SONY I HATE U FOR NOT LISTENING TO WHAT WE NEED. YOUR FORMAT IS RUBBISH, UR SOFTWARE AND USABILITY IS RUBBISH! only reason i not on hdds already is cos i love having the idea of carrying the media seperate from the player.