jadesmar

I remove dead space from between tracks several times a day with no problems in HiSP. Here is my procedure: 1. Play the song or voice leading into the track. When this stops, press the track marker at the beginning of the dead space. 2. Fast forward to the end of the dead space, place a track marker here as well. 3. Reverse to beginning and play the track to verify that you are playing the track you want deleted. 4. Pause the track. 5. Hold down Nav/Menu 6. Scroll to edit. 7. Scroll to Erase 8. Press Ent (>') three times. 9. Dead space is now removed. If all else fails, you can always download the entire track to your hard drive, convert it to wave and copy and paste vital sections of the entire track using your favourite wave editor to create new files.

That sounds right.

How was the show? How is the recording?

I am by no means an expert, but I have opinions and some thoughts... here they are: Since HiMD media is pricey compared to CDs, I use the HiMD recorder for transient data only. You may want to invest in a CD burner (if you don't have one) for storing long term copies unless you have a ton of harddrive space. I think you can record the lecture (on one disc in PCM if the lecture is less than or around 90 minutes) and upload it as a PCM wave file. This file can then be edited with the software of your choice and, if you get it under 74 minutes, can be burned to CD without loss. HiSP will allow up to 8 hours of lectures and since you are using an analogue source (microphone) for recording, you should be able to use the wave converter utility in Sonic Stage to create wave files. Which can then be edited using the software of your choice. Since you mentioned you want to make copies, I recommend a CD burner or mp3 converted, depending on who else is going to be listening and how they are going to be listening. 1 minute of mp3 sound is approximately 1MB at 192 bit encryption, so a 90 minute lecture would be about 90 meg. There is also a HiMD Render program around these parts which also allows for the creation of wave files from .oma files (or Atrac audio files). This can apparently be used as many times as you like on the same files and does not have the limitation on the source material that ensures that it comes from an analogue source. If SonicStage does not allow you to convert the same files to wave files more than once, you can use this utility to convert them as many times as you want. This being the case, to save on hard-drive space, you can store the .oma files on the hard drive and then, if you require an .mp3 or .wav of the file, you can use the render program at that point to create these as necessary. If you want to listen back to the lecture at a future time on your MD player, you should be able to upload your final PCM edit to a minidisc (or your original recording). If you compress at the upload stage, you don't need to worry about permanently altering the .wav or .oma file as the original stored on your computer or on CD. 64 bit compression will allow you to store a semesters worth of lectures on a single minidisc for your own personal playback. When I return to University in the Summer, I plan on recording all lectures in HiSP, allowing me to fit a days worth (almost 8 hrs) of lectures on one Minidisc which I can upload and store on PC and edit later. After that, I can download the lectures using 64 bit encryption until I have the entire semester stored on minidisc.

The recording level will always default to AGC when recording is stopped and will not allow you to set the level. Until recording begins. Record and pause will allow you to set the level before recording. Here are full steps to set volume maually during record. 1. Press T.Mark/Rec(+>) and pause (||) at the same time. 2. Hold Navi/Menu until Edit menu pops up. 3. Using Wheel, scroll to REC set. 4. Press Enter (>' Ent) in middle of wheel. 5. Scroll down to RECVolume 6. Press Enter (>' Ent) in middle of wheel. 7. Scroll to Manual 8. Press Enter (>' Ent) in middle of wheel. 9. Use wheel to select a recording volume. 10. Press pause (||) to start recording. 11. Wheel will now allow you to manually set recording level.

I have 5 discs for my NHF-800. One is used for mp3 music (walkman use) and 4 for recording my live performances and band practices. I generally fill all 4 weekly during band practices at HiSP before transferring to my PC and storing as mp3. Live performances are recorded in PCM, ripped to hard drive and burnt to CD directly. The "walkman use" minidisc, is erased and re-recorded bi-weekly from mp3s ripped from assorted CDs according to my listening whims of the moment. I am not a stickler for quality recordings as mostly I am listening for musicianship and song composition so the 64 bit encoded/45 CDs per disc is fine by me. (I am also using the stock headphones for walking about.) The main problem I am having is the 10+ hours of editing I need to go though every weekend to pick the gems out of the practices, but, I am confident that different recording media would not solve this problem. With respect to purchasing more, since the HIMD is pricey and limited to one upload per recorded performance I can not use them as permanent storage. However, when I return to full time University during the summer, I will need a couple more discs for recording lectures. I think 2 more HIMD discs (14 more weekly recording hours) will be all I ever need until an inevitable media failure causes me to replace one of these.

I recommend against using the live from the board feed for quieter shows. The amplifiers and drum kit have a presence in the room via their stage volume. If the band is playing in smaller rooms, this becomes particularly noticeable. The PA, in smaller rooms, is used to balance out the stage volumes so that the audience gets the best sound. In worst case, the drums would be gone (except what is feeding through the mics), and you would get mostly acoustic guitar, bass guitar and vocals via the PA feed. For larger shows, generally nothing from the stage is heard by the audience execpt via microphone. In such a case, the PA feed should be fine. You may find that you pick up only the audience sound that is carried by the vocal microphones.

NHF-800 to be nit-picky. As, I recently found out

By way of explanation, my machine was open box purchase and had no manual. I have the PDF but no facility to print it. In addition, sometimes I just type whatever I am thinking -- well meaning to look up the information for myself at a later time.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend.

I didn't try synch, I was too concerned about losing sound and track information. Adding track marks manually during recording was a little tedious and, more unfortunately, made me aware of the recorder during the entire session. I would like a plug in and forget it solution. And, I see that sync is not going to work for this purpose. Hence, I am moving on to experiment with adding trackmarks before uploading but after recording. Tonight, I am going to turn the recorder on and leave it. I'll see how this turns out tomorrow. I assume that adding track marks is a simple matter of pressing the T-Mark/Rec button during playback of an analogue recording. How does removing them work? I would provide samples, but the rest of the band is leary about releasing songs on the Internet at this stage. I somewhat understand their reservations but, will try to find something to upload this weekend in case anyone wants to hear the results of my NHF-800 recording sessions.

I see, thanks for the heads up. My software would probably complain about any attempts to edit a 4 hour wave file and I am slightly concerned about the auto-track marker splitting songs in 1/2. The manual claims it goes to standby after 3 seconds and stops recording after 5 minutes. Thus, I may try it when running through a set but, when recording an entire session, I'll need to shut it off. If it works when running a set, great; if not, I'll make friends with the track mark button. The concern there is that the recorder stay pretty far from my bass amp. For now, I'm just "playing with my new toy" before I settle upon the recording solution that works best for me. Given the clarity I achieved last night, I can be fairly confident that there is one.

Thank you very much for your assistance. I was impressed by the clarity of the recording but annoyed and what I considered to be some sort of compression/gate issue. I will give this method a try this evening and let you know how it works out. I just tried HiSP mode on one of my disks and it claims to have 7 1/2 hours of recording time. I think this will be more than adequate for any of my sessions. Hey, it also appears that SYNC REC can be set in the same manner. More fun stuff to play with. Cheers and thanks again.

Hi forum, I just purchased a MZ-NHF800 with a Sony condensor mic for recording my band's practices. I used the following recording settings: REC Mode: Hi-LP REC Volume: CANNOT SET MIC AGC: LoudMusic MIC Sens: Sens Low Time Mark: Off Some of the bass and snare hits seem to be cut off when recording. I have uploaded an example of the problem here: http://www.yearofthegone.com/bass/projects...gg/Comp-err.wav (It's about a Meg in size so I can only keep it there for a couple of weeks.) The sound problem I am seeing, assuming this is 2 bars of 4/4 music, appears on the snare hit on the 2nd beat of bar 2. Can anyone help with this?