This is all very depressing. I have no less than 4 of the blighters - an original R 90 Standard only player, then an N10 followed by a Hi MD model (NH 1) only to be finally seduced by the MP 3 capability of the RH 10. None of the machines is perfect, the N10 and the NH1 were the best looking and constructed, though the NH1 had poor battery life, needed the docking station to charge and had no external battery. The RH10 is basically sound but looks big and plasticky. Sonic Stage has always been a dog and even in the MP3 compatible days it retains canine characteristics. Having said that have you ever tried getting the tunes out of an iPod and back onto a PC? I had to do this when my daughters hard drive disappeared in a puff of smoke and she wanted to keep the 5GB of music that would otherwise have gone for ever. I managed an amazingly complex solution which left the hassles of Sonic Stage way behind. For ease of use the Creative Zen is far better than the iPod; even Apple try to force you to buy stuff again when things don't work out. Just hope that my units will last a good few years and that media will remain available. I have a good friend who still uses a full size analogue Betamax video camera for his home movies, and 2 Betamax decks to edit them with. The only difference is the final tape is now digitised to a DVD!