umm. i'd say HDD players have more bang for the buck: ipod mini: large LCD screen with backlight (expensive) 4 gig hard drive (expensive) Li-ion battery (expensive) aluminum body (expensive) MZ-RH910: 2 line lcd no backlight (cheap) 1 gig hi-md (cheap) NIMH battery (cheapest in its kind) plastic body (cheap) but i'd say that hi-mds have more advantages for the buck: durability battery life sound recording unlimited memory so the dicision is up 2 u p.s. i DONT like ipod at all