DylanGarret

Ugh, screw it. I'm just going to uninstall SS, and try to reinstall my older version off the software, the one that didn't add the loops/extended intros to imported files. It's just too much of a headache otherwise, at this point.

Yeah, but you got it backwards. I don't need trackmarks for the wav/PC version. That the one I want as one long file. I'm not burning them to CDs. But my actual Minidisc, the one I keep for personal listening use, I do want trackmarks, so I'm not stuck fastforwarding through one big file, trying to find songs. If I get rid of the trackmarks and upload it to the PC, that's fine for the PC/wav version, but then I can't stick the marks back into the MD, and I'm permenently stuck with one long file on it. I've done that on a few other mixes, and it's just annoying, having an hour or two hour long track, that I'm trying to fast-foward and rewind through while in my car, or on the train, to find the part I want to hear. I just need a way so I can have it as one track on my computer, but still have it trackmarked on my PC. I don't get why something seemingly so simple is this hard to pull off, damn. EDIT: Actually, I think I just figured it out. I remove the trackmarks, have it as one long file. Then I use the digital real-time recording method, via USB, which will get me the one long, gapless, loopless track. Then, since I never actually "uploaded" it through SS, I should be able to re-edit the tracks back in later. I'll hafta redo all the trackmarking and names and whatnot, but whatever, it's just another hour's worth of work or so. I've already killed that much time writing here, heh. Here's hoping. . . EDIT Again: Oh god, you've got to be kidding me. I'm ready to throw this machine through the window. So back when I first recorded this mix, I plugged it in, and in SS, sorted the tracks into three folders/groups. You know, for ease of listening. I just removed the trackmarks and did the recording trick on the first group just fine, but just realized that I can't remove the marks from the other two groups, since technically I "moved" the files there. And once you touch the files in SonicStage, boom, you're locked out. So yeah, now I can't even remove the trackmarks. I don't get why Sony has to make me hate them so much. I really do like this machine. Why why WHY do they have to go out of their way to sabotage themselves? Though now I'm sure we're getting into futile territory, is there any kind of hack or Service Mode tweak or something I can do to make these tracks editable again? Eh, guess not. Now I really am just hosed.

Ugh, I just spent 20 minutes trying to "work" in SonicStage, and I swear, this program is gonna give me heartburn. . . Long story short, I tried uploading the trackmarked songs into SS, and using the Combine fuction, and I still ended up with the extended intro/repeated segment problem. As far as answering "and why does that have to be done on the MD-player," this is exactly why; I still want trackmarked sets on my MD for my personal listening, so I'm not stuck having to blindly fastforward through a 3 hour long track, but I want to move it to my PC before I trackmark it, so I'm not stuck with these stupid glitches/loops. Man, it's amazing I love my MD so much, given how ass-backwards the software and functionality is designed. So, going by what you said, it sounds like there's no way to get around this, huh? I mean, aside of going in and manually editing out the loops, which still ends up sounding assy, since I haven't found any way to perfectly select and delete just the repeated segment yet. Argh, I don't even know what to do at this point. Is there some other program that we can use to get the files off the MD? One that would remove just the track between the trackmarks, no more, no less? Or one that would let me playback sound from my MD on my computer, through the USB cable, but without the gaps between tracks that SS has? Man, there's gotta be something. Thanks for the help, by the way.

I hope this is in the right forum, I didn't know if I should put it here or in Live Recording. Feel free to move it if you need to. Just for background, I'm using a HiMD MZ-NH900, Windows XP, latest version of Sonic Stage (3.1?). I lurk these forums a bit, and since people usually seem to have good answers. . . So I'm a full-time professional DJ, and that's what I use my MD for. We record and archive our live gigs and our radio shows on the MD, then later need to put them on the computer. Because these are mixed shows (everything is blended together), there can't be any gaps at all between tracks, or any audio indication that one track changes to another. That's kind of why I like the MD, because I can record hours, trackmark it, and it still plays through like one file. Up until recently, I'd trackmark the mix, move it to the PC, convert to wavs with Mark's program, then reassemble the parts in CoolEdit. Just a basic cut-and-paste job did the trick. Then I upgraded to the latest SonicStage version (3.whatever), with the Sony wav converter, and it all went to hell. For whatever reason, now, when I move the files from SonicStage to my PC, it repeats a short segment of the start of each track. So even if I import and go to arrange the files on my computer, the first track still ends at 25:30, but the next track starts at 25:27. Then when it ends at 28:30, the next track starts from 28:27. So, if you're still with me, this means that there's a little 3 second clip that gets repeated, if I just cut and paste the tracks together like I used to (3 seconds is an example, I can't tell if there's any set amount of time that gets repeated, but it's usually 1-3 seconds). I can't let it loop and repeat the segment like that, but at the same time, I haven't found any accurate and efficient way to edit it out by hand yet, even when I just get in there with CoolEdit and try to delete the loop manually. And of course, Sony's program being what it is, if I move the file to my PC as one file before I trackmark it, I lose the ability to edit them in on my MD later. Yay for copyright protection. I can't do the real-time method by going from 1/8" output to my soundcard's input, because my soundcard is crap, and always cuts out the left channel (go figure). I just tried it anyway, to see if it was really that bad, and it was. I'd hate to be a stickler for quality, but I can't tolerate something that sounds really assy, and with the mixes we're doing, I utilize both channels too much to be able to cut out one. Then I read about the USB/Digital Recording method, and it did work for quality. . . but Sonic Stage put in gaps that, even when I removed them by hand, still didn't line the tracks up correctly. Unless someone tells me an easier way, for future cases I'm going to use the USB Playback Realtime Recording method before I trackmark, and then laydown the tracks later (since I'm not importing, I figure it should let me). But I've still got a mix on there now, with 40-50 trackmarks on it, and need a decent way to get it onto my PC with some quality, or a way to transfer that won't leave me with those repeated intro segments. Even just a good program or method to edit them together, and cut out those loops. . . I don't know. I saw someone else in another thread (Volta-something) mention this same problem, but didn't see an answer with it, so I guess it's not just me. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys. EDIT: Oh, I read through all those FAQs, did a search, and scanned a few pages of topics, to see if this had already been posted. I didn't catch anything, but if it's already been answered somewhere else, feel free to just point me in that direction. Thanks again.