Many thanks for the replies. I think just based on the feedback, and the claims that Sony have crippled MP3 playback (I don't want to be constantantly fiddling with EQ settings, that may or may not fix the problem), then the HD or flash based player is for me; oh well perhaps the generation 3 players will be better. Some of you guys should get a job at Sony to make things happen This is a bummer - just as well I did some research before taking the plunge to buy one. The description on the MZNHF700 I was going to buy clearly states "Compatible with ATRAC3, ATRAC3Plus, MP3 and WAV files". False advertising, or is it just the way you read into the statement; ie it doesn't say "Native"? It's like my local council with traffic lights, and some bank fees. You just want to go and punch somebody. Keep it going guys.