cheers guys, thanks for the advice. Looks like the DH10P would be out of the window as be pointless if can only connect to computer, shame cos looks goof RH10 looks pretty good too. don't think she would be using her old minidisc player, as long as new one plays her old discs then that is fine I just get a stack o Hi-MD to go with it so she can then record any new stuff to there instead