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Thanks for wikipedia, i've never visited it before. But i meant that it is re-compressed, that is not good. Though i saw on wikipedia (or think that saw), that it doesn't produce any noticeable loss of quality, in contrary to conversion ATRAC->MP3. Really, doesn't matter anymore.

Thanks, A440. That was expected. And the only conclusion i can make, is that Sony doesn't care anymore about analogue recs. By the way, even when you copy tracks from deck to deck via optical, there will be no complete identity. I mean, there are such conversions performed ATRAC -> PCM -> ATRAC. Is that right?

Think, there is one more thing left. Here is a track recorded via digital input. Pure curiosity. Please rename to *.OMA if you decide to check it out!!! [attachmentid=1336] Optical_input.zip

Maybe on previous versions of SS it will not be played? No idea. Ah, f*** it.

First, "Tracks transferred to the Hi-MD from another computer cannot be transferred back to My Library on your computer." - as stated in Help.Seems, there's no difference, how they were recorded. Second, as i can see, you can't even upload previously transferred tracks, but with original file deleted from My Library. Well, i didn't try it on another comp. Sorry if you knew these things.

What was that trick? I'm a recent user of SS, but it seems not to be a worldwide known thing, we're talking about. Well, me too That's interesting. What version of SS/OMG? Greenmachine told, it was not accepted. Actually, i don't know how this protection works, but if there is no complete encryption, it is only the choice of the software, whether to allow or not to allow. Anyway, if you look in Properties->File Info tab, there is a difference in "Copy protection". Available vs None. Just an opinion, but i'd prefer to store my (at least, analogue) records with "None". So i'll have no problems with future releases of SS (probably) and no more strange Backup Tools. Umhhhhhh, sweet paranoya... Is there any way to make oma files with those strange restrictions for playback time/count etc ?

I was not sure, what was it's name in english. Yes, like that. Great, that you understand. You may ask, so it's in Russia. Earlier there were even real radio dramas. I mean performance, presented by various people, with sounds etc. Mainly for children. Not sure, if they still exist. Like stories or fairy-tales on that good old vinyls, if you know.

1. Not applicable. The main idea is that i can exchange records via inet. With a limited amount of persons. My consciense is clear, since i'm not gonna sell it anyway. 2. There is no re-encoding! SS is not so stupid as it seems. Actually, i was surprised by that. Time that it takes significantly differs from time needed to convert HiLP->PCM->HiLP. Or like that. Well, you may laugh, but it is some kind of collector's passion. A radio translation (some kind of live recording, isn't it?). Books narrated to the sound of electronic music. Like an audiobook, but better, because of the narrator. Actually, there is a collection on some sites, but all in MP3s, mainly digitized from audiotapes. Also have some. I'd like to have at least a part recorded primarily in A3+ (i bought just recently, what a pity), HiLP - I think, is the best solution, considering that those MP3s are round 128. The only thing that rests - is to find such a crazy person, who has been making the same for some longer time There are no such fans, I think, who store it in WAV for me to convert to HiLP (much better than from MP3). Such an idee fixe . Probably, it will stay just an exercise. i'm so-o-o-o lazy most of time

"When I said MD, you know i meant ATRAC" But you're right. Moved that post.

Yeah. Thanks a lot. Sorry, I don't know. Maybe, anyone else. Only can show my specs: SonicStage : 3.3.03.10270 SonicStage Add-on for Personal Audio Download : 3.3.00.09270 OpenMG Secure Module : 4.3.00.08302 Music Clip, NW-S4, NW-E7 and NW-E10 : 4.3.00.08302 NW-E2, NW-E3, NW-E5 and NW-E8P : 4.3.00.08302 MagicGate Memory Stick Device : 4.3.00.08302 Net MD : 4.3.00.08302 CD Walkman : 4.3.00.08302 OpenMG CD : 4.3.00.08302 Hi-MD : 4.3.00.08302 HDWM : 4.3.00.08302 M.S. PRO : 4.3.00.08302 EMD Plug-in: 1.2.0.9 CD-R Writing Module(Audio CD/ATRAC CD/MP3 CD) : 3.3.00.09270 Px Engine: 2.4.35.500 (not all applicable, but let it be) Maybe, it depends on OMG Module? Don't think, it's a bug, since Sony declines somehow copy protection. But the way it works looks strange.

When you upload analogue recs, you get copy protected OMA files. But if you convert those files to the same bitrate and with "add copy protection" cleared, you get a copy with no protection. No redundant conversion is made. You can't do the same for optically inputed tracks. You'll have to select another bitrate. <I forgot: all about HiMD, MZ-RH910, SS specs - see later.> Just was glad to discover that, 'cause could be usefull for me. At this time I can't check, if these files are accepted on another comp. Could anyone try this, to make sure? Thanks in advance. Attention!! Files are OMAs, please change the extentions! One uploaded[attachmentid=1308] and one unprotected[attachmentid=1307]. Analogue_no_copy_prot.zip Analogue_copy_prot.zip

Mea maxima culpa. Here is a better place for this post http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=13910

Muchas gracias!!! I didn't mean drag-n-drop! The only thing that is really needed for music transfer - right software for each OS. Nothing more. Confirmation for this is, that it may work under VPC on Mac. Still wonder, how dare they say, that this is a new model with a new great feature (M100)? RH has all that functionality.

And what? That's the way it goes. No reason not to upload anything from HiMD, since HiMD unit supports such possibility. Besides, as i can understand, it works with VirtualPC on Mac.

Sorry for some kind of spam (http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=13821&st=4&gopid=83965&#), but: Could you please explain, what is an obstacle for recognising any HiMD unit on MAC. It must look like any USB storage device, at least. And what is the noticeable difference in hardware?

I'm wondering, how can it be possible - not to upload through USB connection on MAC if this is possible on PC. Or there is a difference between USB for MAC and PC? All that is fully controlled by the software. Does anybody know a HW reason, why you can't upload anything to MAC from RH10, for example? There is no one. It's just another stupidity from Sony.

Well, Happy New Year. Doesn't seem to be a long discussion, just a report. Here are installation details (Installer 1.11|SS 3.3.03.10280|NSIS 2.11): < MSI: 2.0.2600.2, updating... Output folder: C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SS3\InstMsiA Extract: cabinet.dll Extract: imagehlp.dll Extract: instmsi.msi Extract: msi.dll... 100% Extract: msiexec.exe Extract: msihnd.dll Extract: msiinst.exe Extract: msimain.sdb Extract: msimsg.dll Extract: msisip.dll Extract: msls31.dll Extract: mspatcha.dll Extract: riched20.dll Extract: sdbapi.dll Extract: shfolder.dll Extract: usp10.dll Execute: "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SS3\InstMsiA\msiinst.exe" (MsgBox: "Service already exists") MSI: 2.0.2600.2 DX: 4.09.00.0904 WMP: 9.0.0.2980, 1 ExecShell: open "http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download" Detected 9.0.0.2980, Windows Media Player 7.1 or newer requiered (voila!) > System: PII / WinME 4.90.3000 rus (a reason?). No antivirus. WMP9 also was russian. Thought, that was an issue. Downloaded an english version. All the same. The result doesn't seem to depend on the version number displayed. It reports all, that I set in registry as the version number for WMP (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{6BF52A52-394A-11d3-B153-00C04F79FAA6}). Spent a lot of time trying to do something and finally installed SS3.3 from the official site. All OK. Seems to be a rare appearance of the bug. Or modified dustribution. But full installer is a great idea. Hope, it will be interesting for you. PS. This is my first message here, so I want to say, that like this place. Thanks to Kurisu for that Service Manuals.