hmm... this is what I've tried so far... again thanks for your help -different md disc -LP2 Stereo in the front usb port -sp transfer mode in the front usb port -back of the computer usb port standard mode, LP2 and sp nothing is working =/ my sepcs for the disc is sony 80mins md hmm... I figured out something... I think it maybe the song... heres the songs info when I look at properties... Type of file: mp3 Opens with: windows media player size: 3.34mb hmm thats not different from any other mp3 files I have... do you think that is the md player or ss? EDIT: update real player doesnt work for any of the songs...