Midnght
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As I posted in a previous post. http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=18106
The RH1 and M200 are the same beast. The only dif. the M200 comes with a sony stereo mic and some other goodies far as I can tell.
But they are the same unit just different extras.
The Owners Manual for the RH1 and the M200 It's the same book.
Lifted straight form Minidisco.coms page about the RH1 down near the bottom of the page. Owners Manual Link}:>)
http://minidisc.org/manuals/sony/Sony_MZ-RH1_user_manual.pdf
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saw hi-md blanks selling at a local sony store in singapore for about 10 Singapore Dollars a piece. that's about USD$6.50?
am still wondering if i should go back to the store and mop up the remainder.
And minidiscos had 800 or so yesterday as of now they're down to
Availability: 599
Price: $6.95
http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-HMD1GL;jsess...p;category=-102
So they're going fast.
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Hard to explain in a title.
Anyway I've got an MZ-R900 (bought before netmd came out, oh well) now and then when i'm listening to my disks the music will stop and i get dead air then it comes back in a moment.
Now there's no missing data on the disk i can rewind and hear what was missed. It's just like it plays for a while and gets to hot and skips over some spaces now and then.
Is this just a dirty player? Or is there something else wrong with my old unit? It has been dropped a few times though only once directly to concrete that munched the aluminum eject button protector. But all in all there's no problems it's a solid piece of equip.
But now and then there's hits blank space any help woudl be greatly appreciated.
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SP is 292kps and is lossy compression. The original CD's are better quality and you would be better making encoding PCM, HiSP or any other encoding from the original CD's than using your SP recordings. That said you may or maynot not hear/appreciate the difference depending on how good your ears and other equipment, for example your headphones etc. It really depends on how you intend listening/using your music.
Agreed I use the LP4 compression myself and it suits my listening needs perfectly well.
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And I thought I found the perfect pair, even the price was right for me. Need something with strogn bass yet maintaining the highs. Maybe I should just buy the PX-100's? But I don't like headbands...
So where do these rate?
I won both and lvoe em no issues clear etc. but for those with a more discerning ear let me know.
I mean these are cheap now
$9.99
h.ear™ Stereo HeadphonesMDR-J10/BLUE
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....s_portable_clip
These have a new updated version but i own this old style.
Sony MDRQ33LP Open Air W.EAR Headphones, Think I paid $35 at the time.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRQ33LP-Open-W...p;s=electronics
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With the current exchange rate, you should be able to import a new one from the United States on that budget.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller...oughType=search (plus $40 US shipping)
http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-MZ-RH1_2
Open box special 1 only $309.95
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Makes total sense. I don't know if this is true or not, but wasn't betamax superior to VHS as well?
Yup superior in picture and sound quality.
Though that whole problem aside from techno-idiocy was largely to blame on Sony they didn't get the seriously major backing form any of the motion picture studios to suport their format this they got crushed by vhs who had major support. At that time both brand new techs superior format etc wasn't looked at in the video relm as much as it is today by more educated consumers. Remmeber the LaserDisc. };>) Which then came the DVD and on to Blue Ray and HD-DVD.
Laser Disc had the same issues as betamax not enough large firm backing and they discs were huge which as we've seen in todays market people want smaller (go figure) even when it's not always better (case in point ipod and many other mp3 players the cube yeesh sooo tiny).
So the betamax vhs thing is far more understandable. The CD MD war made no sense at all when at that time there was a lot of consern over pirating digital media which stemmed from the pirating of vhs and the companies KNEW how pure and clean cd's were. Yet they walked that path. Heck I've got a few Lable made MD's, so I don;t think the backing wasnt; really around. I really think it was price and techno-idiocy.
But at least now we got Blue_Ray versus HD-DVD and Sony has learned from its' mistakes. Which if all goes well will net Blue-Ray as the new DVD standard. They've got really LARGE inductry support, some of the largest names in the market (Lets face it kids drive purchasing through parents. Kids want Disney };>) See * at the end for supporters of Blue-Ray ) And they have smartly (even if it's slow going right now witht he wii competition) given out what something like 800,000 or more Blue-Ray players at $500-600 bucks a pop already in the form of the Ps3 so those folks won't need to out buying a new player for the new format, and Blue-Rays been in Japan for a logn time before it's hitting the states, most know microsofts havin problems REALLY penetrating the japanese market with their gaming system. While HD-DVD hahah well go buy a new stand alone player (or an xbox360 hd-dvd add on which brings your xbox360 up to the same relative price as teh ps3, but don't think you'll get hd-dvd games your not it's purely an hd-dvd player. };>), or a dual HD-DVD Blue-Ray player.
In short I think the thing to get from all this is that Sony's got new blood and the new blood is doing their best to learn from past mistakes so the world (not just japan) can have the best media available.
But this is all my humble opinion and i'm sory for digressing a bit here. Later folks.
More than 170 leading companies have joined the Blu-ray Disc Association including the following:
* Apple, Buena Vista, Disney, TDK, Dell, FOX, LG, Hitachi, Panasonic, Paramount, Phillips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, Thomson, Warner Brothers.
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....blue_ray_player
** The Above shows they've learned something from past mistakes. Maybe it will come to MD as well.
P.S. Based on the american name of the latest MD player. It feels as if sony's moving their MD hardware out of the realm of the player/competition of mp3's cd's etc and instead embracing it for what it has largely (form what i've read) been adopted for across the world of music audio/professionals "Hi-MD™ Field RecorderMZ-RH1" Field recorder does smack of being aimed at recording artists etc. All the extras are bonus for those pedia even teh MZ-M200 is listed as PRO Audio. Those are not terms aimed at the mass public I feel. Time will tell.
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I wonder why MD never really caught on
Well one reason why it never caught on (aside form bad marketing etc) is that the Music Industry never embraced the secure techonology.
I mean think about this.
MD's were out about when CD's were making their hit.
Most if not all companies complain and whine and moan about digital copies and copy rights blah blah blah.
As we all know there is no secure way to keep music from being copied, A simple mic does the trick.
Yet (correct me if i'm wrong) MD was made so that you can put digital music to your MD but you can't take digital music from it (New players not withstanding. Yet even the new record/players still protect anything you write digitally to your MD and won't allow it to be copied backwards right?)
So great you put that record or cd to your MD but you can't digitally copy it down so it's pure and clean and run off more digital copies.
In this respect the media indistry failed to see that they had PURE copy protection. Any copies would be low grade crap.
So they industry never quite understood this and now they bitch about it every damn day. Also, but I don't know perhaps the cost to put on MD was higher at the time than putting to CD. Personally I would have gone MD and protected my music. But hey if it wasn't for the industries mistakes we wouldn't be able to get perfect quality digital music. Hey remember when CD's came out what was it they touted "Never skip or scratch." Hahaha what a joke. I can't scratch my MD's };>)
So sure MD didn't pick up much here around the world cept Japan and some other areas. But really whose fault was that?
Not Sony's, sure they didn't have any huge backing but they offered a techinically superior and secure format, one the Music Industry was too stupid to realize as the way to keep their profits up even if for a bit more of a cost hike at the time.
Sony's always been on the superior edge of recordable formats the problem is the world is full of people who want to pay less, and to pay less you get crap.
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True with the way blue ray is now any hybrid would at best allow for single recording options as i don't think blue ray read writes are out just yet. I haven't followed that closely to if they got a rW format just haven't cared enough. But still a perm write of 16 gigs woudl be noce while using hi-md for RW
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Hi
I just purchased a Sony MZ-RH1 and I have a few questions.. It doesn't come with an optical cable. I have a Sony POC-151 HG optical digital cable that has a Rectangular Plug and a Optical mini plug(Cable with optical and digital input/output plugs for connection of audio visual equipment) and I'm wondering if I can use this cable with my MZ-RH1?
Greg Joplin
Depends on your PC or data sending medium really.
The optical mini goes into the MD recorder.
The Toslink (square) goes into your pc or your stereo/cd/dvd/etc player.
You could of course have optical mini on your pc or av system or cd/dvd player it's not unheard of but i'd be surprised if it didn't have a toslink as that is the standard for large equipment.
You can buy cables that comes with a toslink to mini optical adapters. Or you can buy the adapter seperately as well if you need dual mini opticals.
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I believe during playback the REC button doubles as a trackmark button on that unit. So just hit REC/TrkMrk when you want a new track (while listening).
Also if it works anything like the R900 (having put tapes on Disc Myself)
Just play your music and advance till you get to where you need a track mark then press the track mark button.
Yup per the manual. http://www.docs.sony.com/release/MZRH910.pdf
Page 53 of 115 Dividing a TRack Directly
While playing or pausing, press T MARK at the point you want to mark.
You can as stated before also mark while recording but not while synchro recording the manual says.
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You were right, I think that's a very good proof! I sent a mail to studica, but i don't think they'll send to europe :_(
At least now I know there's another way of labelling it, with better equipment! Tomorrow I'll do some research for shops with it
Again, thank you! Btw, atrac3, grazie
I took note and i'm following that article as well, just in case 
NP If you don't have any luck let me know. If your the trusting type. I'd be happy to have it shipped to me for free, then ship it to spain for whatever that would cost from the US.
Looks to be around $20.50 to madrid for 2 pounds by airmail. USPS
$67 via fedex Yikes.
And about $72 from ups ick.
But anyway the options there.
Good Luck
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Yes, I have tried several discs, both new (out-of-the-package) and formerly used. Additionally, I have run a cleaner through the unit several times with no success. I was just thinking about opening up the unit, since I am out of warranty, but I haven't been able to do this. I have removed the two tiny screws at the hinge but I cannot seem to lift off the lid. I tried searching the forums (and the net) for directions on opening a unit but was unable to find anything. Would you be able to tell me how to do so?
Btw, I figured out that the reason the unit was shutting off was due to a low battery (apparently something is also wrong with the battery life indicator, but I am less concerned with this). So, now I am back to the constant clicking sound when the recording is underway. Somehow, the unit got through the "System File Writing" screen this time and was able to save something of what I test-recorded. I was able to record 25 seconds of audio before stopping it (manually), but the only seconds 10-18 are playable. Additionally, upon letting the unit shut down and then trying to replay the disc, I encounter a "Read Error."
Well there's either some extra screws inside you might see upon opening the unit just make sure they are conencted to the housing in some way an not internals.
But other than that it's probabyl a snap in place type of model where you find the right places to pry up.
As I don't own the RH10 I couldn't begin to tell you exactly how to do it. If I had one i'd take it apart and let ya know. Perhaps someone else has had experience around these parts?
Well your in luck I did some searchign and it lead me back to these forums. Found a website with photos someone took apart their RH10
Perhaps you could private him about more info if the pics aren;t enough help.
http://gregtsai.spaces.live.com/PersonalSp...p;_c=photoalbum
click RH10
The User is gregtsai
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Wow! I thought there for a minute that you were wishful thinking but after seeing the mini blue ray it could be very well be a minidisc blue ray in the near future. I can think of a brand name "Sony MZ-BR1" with optical output of course.
Well it is still wishful thinking.
But with sonys legacy of backwards compatibility in their hardwares
HI-MD playing MD and all it's format compressions, ps2 playing ps1 and 2 games, ps3 playing ps2 and 1 games
I could see a blue ray mini player (if they keep doing MD's mind) that's back compatible with HI-MD and MD
Still wishful thinking, but not entirely without any logic based in reality. We can only drool and hope, or maybe write sony some letters, hmm... would it help, I wonder?
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Thanks a lot for your information!
Yeah, i agree it's a nice price...Wich scares me. I mean, if the thing is they include goodies with the unit...Why do they label the unit differently? Wouldn't be more common-sense to label it "RH1-extra pack" or something like that?
Can it upload songs to the computer freely? Even those normal oldies SP -LP2 ones? Does it support mp3 natively? It sounds so weird...
Sorry, i've just checked the table you said....So I guess u're right...But I still feel a little bit uncomfty...
I mean, it's not that i don't believe you...But it's a HiMD I never heard of. It doesn't even show up in the minidisc.org list page...
Does anybody else know about this unit? (maybe if more people says "it's alright it's just the same" I'll dare...)
I had a bad experience with an NH600D unit...I didn't notice that "D" behind when I bought it. And it was the american capped version
That unit is no more. Oddly enough, my MZ-N510 still works as the first day (but it's a total wreckage, someday the main door will fall off). So I'd like to buy a one that is GOOD quality. Something that lasts. Like that poor N510.
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Well not having mine yet I can't give you some of the info your asking.
But i'll post as manylinks about this as I know of.
According to this the MZ-M200 is the new version of the MZ-M100
Though from images and other thigns i've seen they're exactly the same sans mic extra.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM06/Co...0-Recorder.html
Here's sonys info on it as you can see tis what they call their PRO Audio for professional recording blah blah blah
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusin...83&id=84320
Here's sonys data on the MZ-RH1 which looks like the same product just targeted at the home user.
http://www.sony-europe.com/PageView.do?sec...ssReleaseDetail
Heres ton of data about the RH-1 which i figure you know about. but for others anyways.
http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sony_MZ-RH1.html
And Another indepth review of the RH1 (This is the best review I've seen about the RH1 M200 any where even tells you what can be uploaded to the pc and what can't
http://www.mdcenter.nl/redirect.php?file=h...h1/index_en.php
but here's the real clincher for ya. };>)
The Owners Manual for the RH1 and the M200 It's the same book.
Lifted straight form Minidisco.coms page about the RH1 down near the bottom of the page. Owners Manual Link}:>)
http://minidisc.org/manuals/sony/Sony_MZ-RH1_user_manual.pdf
Enjoy.
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So, my RH10 unit is well out of warranty and has really only been used for playing (I use my RH910 for recording, usually). In fact, I've only recorded with it maybe 3-4 times since I bought it last December. Recently, I have tried recording with this unit and it has started making weird "clicking" sounds after about 8 seconds. After trying to stop it and simply start over, I found that it would not save any of the information and constantly got stuck on the "System File Writing" screen.
More recently (today), I have tried recording with it again and now the unit shuts down completely (black screen) after 6 seconds worth of recording.
So, I guess I'm screwed, with the unit being out of the 1-year warranty. It has never been dropped and has been well cared for. I was wondering if anyone else has ever had this kind of problem before and, if so, how it was resolved. I have no idea what to do. :-(
Thanks.
Well just quickly you tried a different disc one fresh out of the package perhaps?
Run a cleaner through your unit?
Sounds to me like you might have something inside the unit a piece of sand or who knows what. If your techno savy and not afraid open it up give it a slight shake out put it back together.
That's just my thoughts.
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Hi,
I have a question: Will there be a new Hi-md recorder (sony) in 2007 ???
Nothing heard of yet. But if and when they do. I'd be expecting BlueRay MD Or probably called Blue-Ray Ultra MD };>)
As BlueRay is sony's latest triumph it's not far fetched to watch 'em move MD's to blue ray as they hold so much more data on a standard dvd size disc. That or UMB.
N just so ya don't think i'm crazy here they are.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/05/tdk-unv...iscs-at-ceatec/
16.5 Gigs of data on one Mini BlueRay. Now stick that in an MD player oh yeah baby!!!
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I do certainly hope so.
Md has never gotten it's full due in most parts of the world especially in the U.S.
But then that's to be expected from generations of consumers who don't know anything about what they are buying, the technology they need or that is good,
They buy game consoles because they're children want them not because one is a smarter purchase over another in the long run.
They're all abunch of bill gates automotons who couldn't command line their way out of a paper bag.
}:>)
I love MD have for a long time. My only issue is JVC didn't make a good brand on the bookshelf console I bought ages ago now it no longer plays md's at all. }:>/ But my old sony's going strong and my MZ-M200 is on it's way.
Long Live MD
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Hi, i just saw this page and i got confused: What's the mzm200 model? Never heard of it. Don't see any special difference with the RH1, although it's quite expensiver and seems to not include remote. So why that price?
Any ideas? Thanks!
The only dif is accessories.
It comes with the sony stereo mic.
Sony MZ-RH1
http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-MZ-RH1?sc=7&category=10
Sony MZ-M200
http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-MZ-M200?sc=7&category=10
Comparison chart
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Hi, i'm asking this, since it's starting to be a pain in the ass to find an "affordable" RH1. I've found some pricing around 400€, and on ebay a crazy guy selling one for 2000€. I mean, i want a brand new RH1, but as cheap as possible...if possible. If it's somewhere in Europe, that'd be lovely (for shipping costs). It's starting to be pretty hard for me to find one. I live in Madrid, but its really weird to go to sony stores and being told "they don't ship them here in spain". I saw one in a small shop, but the shop dealer was talking of 450€. I could buy 2 ipods for that price (and come back home with money in the pocket)! I prefer sony for all the reasons you know, but I'm not THAT mad...Any tip? Any cool online shop? Thank you guys!
Well it's not the RH1 It's the RH1 sister accessory upgrade pack complete with stereo mic.
I just bought it as it's the cheapest I could find and you don't have to be a student to get this price plus free shipping.
http://www.studica.com/products/product_de...productid=51365
Sony Pro Hi-MD Minidisc Recorder MZ-M200 $327.95
And in case your not sure
http://www.minidisco.com/site/PortableChart-MDO-4.htm
You can see the images they are both teh same and the same everything down to stats. Just one comes with the mic for an additonal price tag. Though the price I found is far less. };>)
Enjoy.
Sorry it woudl appear they may not ship to spain. But you can always call and check.
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Posted · Edited by Midnght
I fall into the casual listner catagory in general. but I will say there's nothing quite as satisfying as busting out the ol md player attach mic hit record and record those lengthy meetigns or training sessions to rip down to mp3 and store for later use be it for people who missed the meeting for one reason or another or to pass on the live training without needing to go to class again.
People always ask what's that and i'm more than happy to tell them. }:>)
Also it's great for recording conversations with the wife so when she or you say you said such and such you can go um no I didn't here listen. Or show em see you got mad not me so stop saying i'm the grumpy one. };>) And the player fits neatly in a shirt pocket with mic sticking out hahaha.
As for the ol ipdo. Apple can take it's $99 battery replacement scheme (maybe it's come down in price some what but i doubt it) and put it in places your mother says never put things. Like it woudl have killed them to allow you to pop in a new batery. Nooo they have to have you ship it back at your cost pay $99 for a new battery they'll install. Pfffft money grubberss who needs em.
Well I see the cost has come down.
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery/
Not a replacement of the battery though BUT YOUR ENTIRE unit. that's damn near worse than just replacing the battery. And to get this cheaper fair you have to buy into a program. for $69.95 per unit jeez my $40 shuffle just became hidesouly expensive to replace the battery.
Bah the maker of ipod should be shot IMHO for making yet more plastic crap that should be thrown away harming the environment.