dex Otaku Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Check this out: http://www.aaton.com/products/sound/cantar/index.php Oh yes. Hard disk recorder with SMPTE jamming, 8 tracks recording, 18 inputs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Time to ground you: 24414 swiss francs. Thats roughly 18000 Euros. According to a pricelist of Defitechnique, the swiss distributor. So, keep dreaming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 OMFG. 21000USD?! That thing better be farking AMAZING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 It's made for recording film sound - even standing in the rain. That kind of price is pretty typical of such equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 This is like the sort of thing used to make the soundtracks for movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadeclaw Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Correct. Add this one: http://www.aaton.com/products/film/35/ a 35mm Film Camera and you're set. Both camera and recorder are automatically syncronized using special codes, so that the sound is absolutely lipsync without the need of resyncronizing it during postprocessing. Oh, and don't think that 35mm is dead, the quality of a good 35mm copy is still well above digital cinema... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Correct. Add this one: http://www.aaton.com/products/film/35/ a 35mm Film Camera and you're set. Both camera and recorder are automatically syncronized using special codes, so that the sound is absolutely lipsync without the need of resyncronizing it during postprocessing. Oh, and don't think that 35mm is dead, the quality of a good 35mm copy is still well above digital cinema...Pretty much all professional broadcast and film equipment are made to sync using one form or another of SMPTE time code. The audio recordist on film/TV set usually controls syncronisation for all devices present using a master clock in their recorder or on the cart near their recorder. All slates and cameras are sync'd to it by plugging them in at the start of work on a certain location. For professional film/TV use, SMTPE is a requirement - something that it would be really great if pro versions of MD/HiMD could support, to be honest. As someone who has been a still photographer [using 35mm film almost exclusively] for a number of years, I both agree and disagree with you about film. HD formats do have certain advantages, including higher sensitivity than film, higher exposure latitude [contrast ratio], far lower cost in terms of materiel, &c. Film on the other hand has a more appealing look to it, and is capable of doing things that no CCD image sensor will ever be able to, such as extremely-long exposure photography without the massive constant signal processing that any [digital] video format would require. Film equipment is also highly embedded in the industry, meaning the equipment is far easier to find and is limited to a few very well-known standards that have been around for quite some time, for the most part. It has also evolved with its companion technologies; film is not rudimentary in any way. It is highly versatile. One of the best reasons I've seen for still using film though: The standard 'flat' [non-anamorphic] shooting format for films and television uses an unmasked frame, meaning the entire usable area of the frame is still exposed despite only the 16:9 ratio area in the [vertical] center being used for later editing. The advantage to this [despite it seeming wasteful, perhaps] is that while they are shooting a scene, the director, camera op, and sound recordist can see vertically above and below the shot - meaning they'll know if the boom or mic, or cables, or special FX equipment, &c. are about to move into the top or bottom of the frame by accident - and they can take action to correct it without having to reshoot. With HD the frame is 16:9, with no safety zone around it. Even standard TV equipment has overscan - but HD [so far] does not. Which means if the boom op sinks the mic a bit low, no one knows it's happening until the shot is already ruined and has to be redone. Anyway. This is like the sort of thing used to make the soundtracks for movies?Indeed. Its intended purpose is multitrack [and I had that wrong - it's 6 discrete tracks plus a stereo mix] recording for syncing with film or video. The whole thing, though.. its apparent durability, the look of its design.. it just looks like an industrial design work of art to me. And a highly functional one, at that. With 6 track audio you could go out and capture, in the wild, a quad mix [surround ambience] using dual M/S mics as well as a forward-looking stereo mix with another for use in a 2-channel mix later. Or a quad surround mix, verbal cue track, and a large-diaphragm condensor mic for the LFE channel. I like to fantasise about it, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 There is no doubt it is worth every penny for this behemoth. Battery life is from 10 - 15 hours, too. Surprised they can cram this many features in 7.5 pounds.. This sure is one device made for males. Looks like something from Mad Max.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 My father's a professional photographer, so I know all about film being higher quality than digital. 35mm is definitely higher, and medium- and large-format films are miles ahead of consumer digital photography products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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