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Christopher Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I'm a noob. What program is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I'm a noob. What program is that?←Vegas 4.0. Used for mixing 5.1 surround.Yes, there are better progs for that, but Vegas by far has the simplest interface I've used of any of them. Also, at the time that I did this [mid 2003] it was the only app I could find that would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Looks like a jungle of confusion. What do you use now for editing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I use a combination of things. For simple timeline editing, I still use Vegas actually. As I said, I like its interface - it has the simplest combination of features in terms of nondestructively splitting, combining, and crossfading tracks. For most mono or 2-track editing I use Sound Forge 6. [7 has too many problems co-existing with other Sonic Foundry/Sony products because it has unicode support while the rest don't - meaning a whole different set of basic plugins, file converters &c. that are compatible between the new and old.] I find I use a combination of SF6 and Vegas for most things. Most processing I do in SF. Timeline editing I tend to do in Vegas, which many might consider odd, since Vegas is actually intended for video editing.At various times and for various purposes I have also been known to use Samplitude [which I stay away from now as the recent versions have so many bugs in them that they're completely unusable for even just general-purpose editing], Cakewalk [my first multitrack mixes (tracks dumped from an analogue 8-track portastudio) on computer were done with Cakewalk back in 1998 on a K6-233 wtih 32MB], Nuendo, Acid [which I consider to be next to useless for basically everything], Reason, Live Delta, Audacity, and Cool Edit.The only truly popular editor I have purposefully avoided is probably Cool Edit. I have never liked its interface. Adobe Audition doesn't appeal to me, either. It's nothing to do with actual functionality or buggy software; it's just that I like things to work a certain way. Sonic Foundry products seem the closest to ideal in most instances for my purposes and preferences.Mind you, I'm biased on that point - back in about 1991 or 92, I informally beta-tested Sound Forge 0.x and have pretty much stuck with the Foundry people since. I was extremely upset to discover that Sony had bought them not so long ago.But..Perhaps the SF folks are who might tackle the problems with SonicStage.That would be interesting, to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 What would you recommend for a beginner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 A Macintosh.In all seriousness, Mac audio editing software is still parsecs ahead of PC/Windoze software.Example: the free version of Protools LE from 1998 [which won't run on modern PCs -or- Macs] is far better than anything I've used on the PC for general-purpose editing.As I said, my preferred 2-track editor is Sound Forge, but it lacks in the timeline-editing department. It is basically a linear editor for PC.Many people like Cool Edit for its features and supposed simplicity, but I find its interface to be cluttered and arse-backwards in terms of how thing are selected, moved, &c., as well as how completely illogical the shortcut keys arefor basically every function other than standard clipboard stuff. Mind you, that's me - for someone just starting out, they likely won't have that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 You must be shrooming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 You must be shrooming. ←Reread the post-edit version. And no, I'm not shrooming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Just playing, mate. I can't afford any more computers, but I will check out Sound Forge. What about paid programs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumz Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Interesting. I've just started a multimedia class (the most basic the school has) and they indicated that we'd be using Vegas 5-- not so much for video but for audio, since it does what it does so well. I imagine they'll be using Final Cut Pro for actual video editing applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Interesting. I've just started a multimedia class (the most basic the school has) and they indicated that we'd be using Vegas 5-- not so much for video but for audio, since it does what it does so well. I imagine they'll be using Final Cut Pro for actual video editing applications.←I haven't seen Vegas 5 yet.Vegas was, to my knowledge, made for DVD authoring [in partnership wiith DVD Architect]. Vegas 4's video editing options are similar to Adobe Premiere's in how the timeline functions. It's actually quite decent and I've used it for a lot of simple editing tasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumz Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 I haven't seen Vegas 5 yet.Vegas was, to my knowledge, made for DVD authoring [in partnership wiith DVD Architect]. Vegas 4's video editing options are similar to Adobe Premiere's in how the timeline functions. It's actually quite decent and I've used it for a lot of simple editing tasks.←Exactly. While we may do some editing in Vegas, I thought it was interesting that the audio features were the real strength of the software. But as far as having a degree in multimedia communications, I'm sure it would make sense for them to teach Final Cut Pro. It's also too bad that current Macs can't run that Protools software that you mentioned. What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Protools was updated. The free version is simply an old version that they released for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Do you recall the version number of the Protools LE you were so keen on? I did some investigation on Google and there's alot behind this suite. Looks like they're still going strong with OSX and XP compatibility and related software upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Protools is widely regarded [and has been since the early 90s] as the best audio editing software there is.I'm not sure what the version is, but if you go to the Protools website it's still there for download.edit:Mac and PC versions of Protools free are "based on version 5.0.1". The Mac version requires Mac OS 9.x. The PC version requires Win98/ME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thanks for reporting the version number, because digidesign's website is like a maze when trying to find the free version. Google helped me with such..But yeah, for anyone else reading this, here's the download link: http://www.digidesign.com/ptfree/So what do you think of the latest Pro Tools, or have you not had the chance to try it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 It's like a maze? You didn't spot the link at the bottom of the www.protools.com frontpage for "protools free"?Or.. ah.. the digidesign site. Right. Go to protools.com instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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