Would Someone Please Upload Ss 2.0 ?

[LowMD]

Since my disastrous SS 3.0 installation (in another thread), Sony's best advice is to start again with "the software supplied with your MD" and then try to install 3.0 after that. No guarantees, but it's their best guess.

I have misplaced that disc. If anyone has a copy and can either place it somewhere online to download it or burn a CD and mail it to me, please reply either publicly or as a PM.

Sony does not have it online and will not, despite my cajoling, send it to me. "We apologize for the inconvenience." OK, Sony, you got behind the wheel of my car, smashed it into a tree and left it completely impossible to drive--I consider that something more than an inconvenience.

And, moderators? I strongly suggest you reconsider your hasty endorsement of SS 3.0.

Given that installing SS 3.0 has completely screwed up both upload and download capability on a computer that was running 2.3 with no problems at all, BEWARE of "upgrading" if 2.3 is already working for you.

[dex Otaku]

I have yet to have a single installation problem with any version of SS. I started with v2.1 before getting my NH700, and 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 had no difficulties with installing/upgrading.

I have never lost my library or the like, had Db conversion problems, &c.

I have experienced a few minor SS crashes and in version before 2.3 I lost several uploads from my own recordings [which caused me no harm as I had backed them up with total recorder beforehand].

I hate to take Sony's attitude on this, but the majority of users do not have the problems you've described, which can only suggest that there is something missing or damaged on your system in particular.

I wish I could be more helpful than that, but unfortunately I have never experienced any of the problems you have.

There were installer version of 2.3 kicking around before, so perhaps you could try searching the forum for the users who posted those links.

I will continue advising that people upgrade, in any case. The changes in speed and stability are worth it for those of us whose systems are not mysteriously incompatible. [That's not a hit on you, either - it's simply the truth. We don't know why your system won't upgrade smoothly.]

[LowMD]

The 37.2MB SS 2.3 installer doesn't find its "target module" after I've reverted to SS 1.6. Neither does a 2.0.0.x update I found at Minidisct.

It's a VAIO computer, about 6 months old, 1.6 GHz, 512K memory, Win XP Pro, plenty of space on the two drives it's (factory-)partitioned into. If that's not compatible with SonicStage, and a long talk with Level 2 Sony support can't solve the problem because they don't know exactly what they're installing either, then, well, I would hesitate to recommend 3.0 so blithely. When the Sony guy who was explaining to me about authenticating the database said "SsAAD.exe, what's that?" (it's in your Startup now, Dex Otaku), it did not fill me with confidence.

I had no problem installing versions up to 2.3 either, and you guys were gung-ho on it, which is why I was willing to try a .0 version. But as far as I'm concerned, 3.0 is malware. Now my NHF-800 is a glorified cassette recorder, and Sony won't even help me implement its own solution.

You can see by this forum that people have lost libraries, etc. If I do get this working I have no doubt my library will be gone too, although I made a DVD backup. As I noted in the other thread, when I tried to run Ojbsir.exe to authenticate, it couldn't find the internet connection, which is broadband with no proxy.

Other readers, there's no shame in leaving 2.3 in your computer if it's uploading and playlisting properly. I wish I had.

Meanwhile, if anyone can post the 2.0 disc to an FTP or MySpace site or something, I'd appreciate it.

[ROMBUSTERS]

before you start blamming Sony and its dreaded software, as is the case of everyone that posts heated topics on this forum, please take a minute, breathe and then realise that it might actually be your fault (and i say this in the nicest way possible). Have you tried scanner for adware/viruses lately? Have you followed this forums recomendation of uninstalling all OMG/SS/SB software before installing a newer version? Have you installed, changed, downloaded, transfered, altered, reconfigured, messed around with or otherwise did something to your computer that may have caused your problems (specifically have you done anything that touches the registry recently like a system restore)? Maybe it has something to do with preinstalled Sony software on your PC? Try these leads and see if anything like this helps at all.

[Ishiyoshi]

Meanwhile, if anyone can post the 2.0 disc to an FTP or MySpace  site or something, I'd appreciate it.

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I am sorry that your experience was not a pleasant one thus far. However, I have to agree with dex that something is amidst within your system - most likely SonicStage's registry settings or SonicStage 3.0 did not installed properly. There are many users of this forum that have 100% problem free experience with SonicStage 3.0; and I am one of them. While, reverting back to SonicStage 2.3 is not bad at all, just make sure you delete SonicStage's registry before doing so.

Regardless the possibilities, I hope you can revert back to SonicStage 2.3 with ease. You can download the full version of SonicStage 2.0 here [26.4MB].

Good luck.

[dex Otaku]

LowMD -

That your system is a VAIO is possibly the reason all this is happening. Previous versions of SS had slightly different functionality on VAIO systems. Perhaps there's a module incompatibility of some sort.

My experience as a computer tech is that, generally speaking, factory-installed OS's and their accessories tend to be the cause of a great deal of [if not, in fact, most] problems. [This being my experience with Compaqs, Toshibas, Sonys, HPs, and virtually every popular brand brand PC and notebook between about 1994 and late 2003, when I left my job as a tech at a local shop.]

My rule of thumb with basically all computers is that, right out of the box, the first thing one should do is wipe the hard disc and do a clean installation of your OS, free of all the crap, er, extras that the manufacturer provides, along with the most recent drivers for all your hardware.

If you're running your machine with the factory-installed OS, that is probably the culprit right there.

I hope you get the previous version running correctly again. Please let us know.

Oh, and incidentally, ssaad is -not- in my startup; the first thing I do after installing any software is check for things it added to my startup and, usually, remove them. In the case of ssaad, I removed it from the startup immediately after installing SS 3.0, and everything is working fine here.

Again, good luck.

edit:

Upon checking again - SSAAD reinserts itself into your startup every time you run SS. doG I hate startup progs that do that. While SS works fine with it unloaded, it will load again after your next reboot. This is as bad as Realplayer's startup item that you can't get rid of. Either way, it doesn't appear to be doing my system harm other than consuming memory.

Edited March 11, 2005 by dex Otaku

[LowMD]

Our long nightmare is over.

First, thank you Ishiyoshi, for SS 2.0 . I would suggest that this site keep things like that tucked away somewhere in case they are needed. I don't think we're going to find them on www.oldversion.com. Googling Sony, I also found something called

SOASST-00877601-US.EXE

which may be the same thing or a 2.3 version. Ain't no way I'm going to run it, though. I'll be happy to attach it if this board can take a 19MB attachment, or someone more ftp-savvy than I am could Google and download it before Sony remembers to delete it.

Anyway, 2.0 didn't work after I reverted back to 1.6. . It couldn't find its target module either. Other SS updates, like the one I got from Minidisct and SS23eng.exe, also missed their targets.

So I installed SS 3.0 on top of 1.6. (Rombusters, I suppose retrieving 1.6 counts as a system recovery.) Couldn't read the MD. Uninstalled 3.0, deleted the directories and keys as in the old FAQ about 2.x, and reverted back to 1.6. Somehow files related to the battery, SXBIOS.dll and BSNTSBS.dll, disappeared, but I had them tucked away in my backup and pasted them back where they belonged. Strange, but that problem didn't recur.

Then reinstalled 3.0. This time it could read the attached Hi-MD, but my 3.5 gig Library was gone. Ojbsir.exe (to authenticate the database) couldn't find the internet connection either with broadband or dialup. The backup tool didn't find what it wanted in Packages.

I had the library backed up onto a DVD. Pointed the backup tool to that, ran it, it connected to the internet and I had My Library back.

Unfortunately, SS 3.0 had decided to stop reading the Hi-MD again. It was also not unloading after being closed; omgjb.exe was still running in Task Manager, but clicking on the shortcut didn't reopen SS.

Ran the 3.0 installer again, which said I didn't need updating but--thank goodness--allowed what appeared to be a complete reinstall: DirectX 9, Windows Media 9, Music Server something-or-other, OMG Secure Module, SonicStage and SonicStage Add-on.

After the reboot, Win XP Pro left Norton Internet Security disabled--something I had encountered before during the many reinstalls. But on another reboot, Norton works, I have My Library, the Hi-MD is recognized, and I an incredulous.

I'm still expecting it to collapse at any moment, but so far so good. Setting a Restore Point right now.

And hey, Dex Otaku, I told you so, but don't be Ssaad.

Anyway, while I do run Norton, Spybot and Ad-aware regularly, this is not a geeky-clean computer with a new OS; that would probably have voided my warranty, since every time I call Sony they ask whether I have installed any new software since getting the computer. Uh, yeah.

But this computer had been virus/spyware free and functional before this and I hope is now stable again. I realize SS is a complicated program, but sheesh, it shouldn't have been this knotty.

One thing for the computer fiends to follow up on is the revelation that maclist.dat and icv.dat are the files that authenticate the database.

And in the words of the I Ching, perseverance furthers.

Personally, my next upgrade will be SS 5.2 or above.

[dex Otaku]

And hey, Dex Otaku, I told you so, but don't be Ssaad.

Bwaahahahahahahaha

Glad to see things are working. Sorry to hear it took so much effort.