Fedji Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Hi there!.. I have a MZ-N910! It works just fine, i thought that i could upgrade to the new sonicstage 3.3 from like sonicstage 1.0 (if there is one, i think i had the first version).And ofcouse, now when i record something on the minidisc, it plays it really strange, almost like i was buffering the music from the net with an 28.8 modem!...it sounds hacked and buffered So, has anyone encountered with this problem, and maybe has the solution. please answer /F Edited December 23, 2005 by Fedji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Check what bitrate [encoding mode] you're using. If it sounds like that, you've probably got it set to encode in HiLP mode, which indeed sounds pretty similar to internet radio as it's a very low bitrate.On the other hand, your description [now that I've reread it] .. "hacked and buffered" .. a teensy bit vague. Do you mean it's playing back choppy, with gaps in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedji Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Check what bitrate [encoding mode] you're using. If it sounds like that, you've probably got it set to encode in HiLP mode, which indeed sounds pretty similar to internet radio as it's a very low bitrate.On the other hand, your description [now that I've reread it] .. "hacked and buffered" .. a teensy bit vague. Do you mean it's playing back choppy, with gaps in it?No, i wouldnt say that there are gaps in it, it just sounds really buffered.Ill check what mode it is in. Thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I really need to wake up. I read the post but not the title - you're transferring mp3's, so the bitrate from SS shouldn't be an issue as long as they're not audiobooks or something. That's assuming you're transferring them -as- mp3's, of course.I still don't understand what you mean though. What exactly does something that is "buffered" sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedji Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I really need to wake up. I read the post but not the title - you're transferring mp3's, so the bitrate from SS shouldn't be an issue as long as they're not audiobooks or something. That's assuming you're transferring them -as- mp3's, of course.I still don't understand what you mean though. What exactly does something that is "buffered" sound like?it doesnt matter what i transfer. its music. and when i do transfer with this new version of SS the sound is. well like i said, it sounds almost buffered. Buffered sounds like really low quality..like really low bitrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akijikan Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 maybe when you transfer its getting encoded at low ATRAC bit rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedji Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 maybe when you transfer its getting encoded at low ATRAC bit rate.Yeah, i think its some kind of setting in SS that is wrong. I was quite sure that i had the wrong drivers to my pc. But like you said, maybe its encoded at low atrac bitrate.But i haven´t changed any settings since i installed the new version of SS. Well, i´ll check it out. Thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 In Sonicstage:Tools/Options/Transfer/Hi-MD Make sure transfer is either Standard (As Is) or at a high bitrate, minimum 132. If it's at 64K, no wonder it sounds garbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedji Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Check what bitrate [encoding mode] you're using. If it sounds like that, you've probably got it set to encode in HiLP mode, which indeed sounds pretty similar to internet radio as it's a very low bitrate.On the other hand, your description [now that I've reread it] .. "hacked and buffered" .. a teensy bit vague. Do you mean it's playing back choppy, with gaps in it?Hi again!..I have tried everything people wrote here, and it doesnt work, i have tried all the different LP modes, i have also set it to Standars mode and even SP-mode (which doesnt support MINIDISC LONGPLAY, and i have one that supports it).And actually, now that ive listened to the music from the minidisc. it DOES sound choppy with gaps in it!. PLEASE PLEASE help me on this one. Im reaaallly gettin annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Could you possibly record, using your computer, the playback of your 910 so we can actually hear what the problem is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerodB Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Guys, he's using an N910 not the RH910 (as opposed to the old-skool R910). Gawd, Sony's nomenclature is confusing!Anyway, it's NetMD only - your MP3 tracks will be converted to ATRAC3.Ok Fedji, do you still get this problem when:(i) You transfer music in the ATRAC3 (OpenMG) format in SonicStage(ii) Ripping a CD directly in MD Simpleburner?(iii) When you record from a real-time (optical/analogue) source?Also, have you tried reinstalling SonicStage as per the guidelines in the Software fora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Guys, he's using an N910 not the RH910 (as opposed to the old-skool R910). Oh, geez. [slaps forehead repeatedly] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedji Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Guys, he's using an N910 not the RH910 (as opposed to the old-skool R910). Gawd, Sony's nomenclature is confusing!Anyway, it's NetMD only - your MP3 tracks will be converted to ATRAC3.Ok Fedji, do you still get this problem when:(i) You transfer music in the ATRAC3 (OpenMG) format in SonicStage(ii) Ripping a CD directly in MD Simpleburner?(iii) When you record from a real-time (optical/analogue) source?Also, have you tried reinstalling SonicStage as per the guidelines in the Software fora?I will try this, and come back with a reply soon!..thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 The root of this could also be a misbehaving system Mp3 codec, such as ffdshow [versions previous to mid-2004 are known to cause problems, later ones do not by my experience], or the audio codecs included with some DVD playing software [which claim to be for AC3 decoding but sometimes interefere with MP3 as well]. If you have any codec packs installed, I would suggest searching about them for known issues. Having multiple MP3 codecs installed is also known to cause issues under certain circumstances.For most people I would recommend sticking with the simplest standby codec, from FhG [the patent holders on MP3]. This is included with many games and other pieces of software that incorporate MP3 playback, and can be considered the lowest common denominator. I use the most recent version of ffdshow, which SS uses for transcoding and playback of MP3s, with no issues whatsoever [and it has never caused any issues with MP3 playback or transcoding in SS for me since I started using it in mid-2004, despite the claims by many that ffdshow is the #1 cause of such problems - they're simply and completely full of shit on the matter]. Please note that the "official" ffdshow site [on sourceforge] is unmaintained and only carries an ancient version that is one of the ones known to cause problems. Simply use Google to find a newer one [search for "ffdshow binary"] if this interests you, but keep in mind that ffdshow itself is NOT meant to be used by the average user who desires simple plug and play use; it's meant more for obsessive tweaker-geeks like myself who want control over everything.In summary, I would check your system to be sure that you don't have multiple MP3 codecs installed; that you don't have an old version of ffdshow installed [and if you're a non-technical user to not use ffdshow at all]; and to check for codec packs that may cause conflicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 And ofcouse, now when i record something on the minidisc, it plays it really strange, almost like i was buffering the music from the net with an 28.8 modem!...it sounds hacked and buffered Hey fedji - were those MP3s you were transcoding by chance of a sampling rate other than 44.1kHz? Like audiobooks, or bits culled from DVD soundtracks sometimes are?You can get the track properties by right-clicking a track and selecting "properties" from the menu, it should tell you the sampling rate in there on one of the tabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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