Planet-Z5 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 My big question:my atrac1 minidisc were made from CDs (i copied music to md using the digital optical cable), so they are SCMS protected from making a 2nd generation digital copy.Can I upload these songs to the PC? are there any restrictions?Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minidisc3 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Anyone has news about any walkan that can upload FAST, very fast , old atrac1 minidisc to PC?I read that MZ-RH1 can transfer MD to PC at 5x speed. Any news about a faster device?My big question:my atrac1 minidisc were made from CDs (i copied music to md using the digital optical cable), so they are SCMS protected from making a 2nd generation digital copy.Can I upload these songs to the PC? are there any restrictions?Thanks!!This info goes for the RH1:There are no restrictions at all for uploading your SP (ATRAC1) recordings to a PC.Even prerecorded discs can be uploaded and they always came with SCMS protection.I have uploaded all of my old SP discs without any problem. You can set Sonicstage to convert to ATRAC3plus or PCM during transfer. I used PCM for the uploads, hoping to avoid another conversion step.The only hassle after the upload is converting to wav, conversion to MP3 and MP3 tagging.Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet-Z5 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks, for the reply, howewer: (I am not sure)prerecorded MD SCMS protection is equivalent to MD with songs optical copied from CD?If I an not wrong prerecorded MD could be copied only one time.my songs are already DIGITALLY copied from Cds, so the SCMS is set at "no more digital copied".Am i wrong?If you confirm that is possible to upload my MDs with SP Totally SCMS restricted that will be good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minidisc3 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks, for the reply, howewer: (I am not sure)prerecorded MD SCMS protection is equivalent to MD with songs optical copied from CD?If I an not wrong prerecorded MD could be copied only one time.my songs are already DIGITALLY copied from Cds, so the SCMS is set at "no more digital copied".Am i wrong?If you confirm that is possible to upload my MDs with SP Totally SCMS restricted that will be good news!Don't worry, uploads are possible with your digital realtime CD recordings for an unlimited number of times.The only upload restriction the RH1 has is that it won't upload NetMD recordings created with Sonicstage, but that doesn't seem to be your case.Marco... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) Don't worry, uploads are possible with your digital realtime CD recordings for an unlimited number of times.The only upload restriction the RH1 has is that it won't upload NetMD recordings created with Sonicstage, but that doesn't seem to be your case.Marco...SCMS was only designed to stop you in Real time using the Optical Out on the old unit copying to the Optical IN on a new unit. It wasn't very effective as it was only a single Bit set in the TOC (table of contents) which you could in any case edit with a PC. SCMS was designed well before handling music via PC's was even thought of and the full name was known as S(erial) C(opy) M(anagement) S(ystem).Professional recording gear whether MD or DAT - remember them - were always exempt from SCMS. SCMS was only implemented on Consumer (I.E Non Studio grade) equipment.)Uploads from RH1 are done via USB so SCMS stuff would just be ignored.I've got an MDS JB980 with an optical out so I'll test whether the SCMS function stops me copying a SP disk to the RH1 in real time via the Optical connections. I wouldn't normally copy a disk this way any more but I'll see just out of interest.Hacking the TOC bit was always simple anyway.Cheers-K Edited January 6, 2007 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcou Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) This info goes for the RH1:There are no restrictions at all for uploading your SP (ATRAC1) recordings to a PC. TRUEEven prerecorded discs can be uploaded TRUE and they always came with SCMS protection FALSE (you could make one digital copy of prerecorded with two old md decks for example).Marco Edited January 6, 2007 by garcou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet-Z5 Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Thanks for the good news.The only bad point is that RH1 is very slow to upload SP: 3-5x, so 15-20 minutes per discAre any chances to see in 2007 a new fast unrestricted uploader?Or, as i think, RH1 will be the last model before minidisc is discontinued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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