suspect1983 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Ok hi...im new to this forum....I am an hiphop artist who had most of my instrumentals backed up on sonic stage with my sony walkman....my luck my hard drive crashed and I went to comp usa and they were able to pull the files off the walkman and put them on a cd for me....these files are in open mg audio format....I desperatly need a conversion to mp3 to finish the demo ive been working on....MARC I have tried your himd renderer with no success....I even downloaded for a price the wma converter which they even show of open mg conversion.....on a web ad.....when I try to plug and play the files on sonic stage (the latest version) it tells me they cant play with out obtaining a license....entered my email and pass. and that jus takes me to a page to purchase music from there store....basically a gimic...any way look if any 1 can help me I would highly appreciate it....MC SUSPECTwww.myspace.com/mcsuspect1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Do you still have the walkman and the minidisc with the music on it? The files copied onto the CD are encrypted--I assume the CompUSA people just used Windows Explorer and drag-and-dropped them--and they are useless without your original hard drive and computer, because the encryption is keyed to your hardware. The idiots at Sony made no provision for sudden hard disc failure. What unit were the files originally recorded on? What format (PCM, Hi-SP, Hi-LP, SP, LP2, LP4)? Apparently you uploaded them to the hard drive. Do you know exactly which version of SonicStage you were using? Unfortunately, all of these questions matter. Marcnet's program, and probably the other one too, is made for files that are already in My Library in SonicStage, and playable by your computer. It's not going to work with files outside the computer. IF:1) You still have the files on a minidisc AND2) you uploaded them through a version of SonicStage 3.4 or aboveThen you can simply upload them again from the disc through SonicStage installed on another computer. BUT: IF YOU UPLOADED THEM THROUGH AN OLDER VERSION OF SONICSTAGE, LIKE 3.0, YOU CANNOT UPLOAD THEM AGAIN THROUGH ANY VERSION OF SONICSTAGE, NEW OR OLD. IF YOU TRY TO DO IT THE FILES WILL BE ERASED FROM THE ORIGINAL MINIDISC WITH NO WARNING. I'm yelling because you don't want to lose those original files. The original disc is probably the only way to get your music back. Unless you are absolutely sure the files on the minidisc were not uploaded with an old version of SonicStage, I recommend you contact Sony Media Services, http://www.sonymediaservices.com/ . That's Sony and for a price--probably around $45--they may deal with the encryption and recover the music for you. You could also ask them if they can convert the files from the CD, or if they can get them from the hard drive. With new recordings going into the new version of SonicStage, as soon as you upload them you should go into Tools/My Library and run the File Conversion Tool. That will change the files from encrypted .omg to .oma, which will play in any SonicStage, not just the one on the original computer. But it won't work on the encrypted files you have. Yes, the whole encryption system is stupendously idiotic. Unfortunately, that's what you're stuck with. "Back through the system with the riffraff again..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avrin Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) What exactly happened to your hard drive? Is it completely dead, or just glitchy? If you are able to start Windows from it (at least in Safe Mode), you may try using SonicStage Backup Tool to backup your files, and then restore them on another computer. The original copy protection license will transfer this way. Edited November 16, 2007 by Avrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect1983 Posted November 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 (edited) What exactly happened to your hard drive? Is it completely dead, or just glitchy? If you are able to start Windows from it (at least in Safe Mode), you may try using SonicStage Backup Tool to backup your files, and then restore them on another computer. The original copy protection license will transfer this way. Aight to answer both ya guys....I posted the same forum disscussion on here http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?p=71223#post71223no help from them yet....so heres your answers and what ive done...coz I am going 2 solve this what ever it takes.....aight 1st for A440's thread....no I do not have the files.....coz exactly as you said when you were yelling....they got erased when....comp- usa uploaded them off of my walkman.......talking to sony specialists at # 1866-919-7669, 1 at the prompt and 1 again, takes you to a tech rep for this matter.....I have spoke with 2 very customer friendly people....who have actully made me like sony again.....Jacob and Robert.....they are there 24/7 when open mon-fri 8-7 eastern time.....to bang out AVRIN'S ? no the hard-drive was trashed-wiped out.....sent in to westell....they couldnt recover any data....sent me a new hard-drive.....back so thats, that story.....ok A440-I dont know how you are classifing the units code number...but it simply is a sony walkman with model # nw-e505.....I was using version 3.0 and as you said im screwed practically however I read Jacob your reply: he said you were very intelligent on the matter....however wrong in some cases....your refering to a minidisc player when the walkman is an mp3 and as well....I have salvaged the oma files, now he said if they were omg...than id be screwed....to your quote on Himdrend. and the other applications ive used....yes those are apps only used for oma files in your sonic stage lib. true....so with those programs im screwed...practically......any way Jacob got me really close to the answer which was through sonys new mp3 converter....however the oma files were found but would not convert due to copy-right infringement...(DAMNIT) heres the site maybe this will help most users out.......I HOPE IT DOES:http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-download.pl?mdl=NWE505&upd_id=2971&os_id=7&ULA=YESok so to sum up where I am....Jacob gave me this # 1-888-222-7669 its for customer resource solutions: aka they can let you know what the engineers say....you cant talk to them but you can open up a filed case with them.....Jacob told me to ask for a specialist.....so yeh.....I mean I still got 120+ beats to work with.....however 1 special beat for my daughter in the time being is lost.....and some other 1's that r jus sick......any way im out for now.....hope this post helps some of you lost souls....."Sic Vis Pacem Para Bellum"NO REGRETZ RECORDSMCSUSPECTwww.myspace.com/mcsuspect1983 Edited November 17, 2007 by suspect1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcnet Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Ive not been able to get Sonicstage, or any of the Directshow components that Sonicstage (and HIMDRenderer uses) to decode/decrypt tracks that have been recorded directly off a minidisc. Neither have I been able to get it to decode tracks that Sonicstage refuses the play.The tracks are encrypted heavily (unless you have the copy protection option turned off - which SonicStage 3.0 dosn't have) and are tied to both the installation of Sonictsage that imported them as well as the installation of Windows that was used. If either of these change or are lost then the OMA files are useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 (edited) ok A440-I dont know how you are classifing the units code number...but it simply is a sony walkman with model # nw-e505.....he said you were very intelligent on the matter....however wrong in some cases....your refering to a minidisc player when the walkman is an mp3 and as well....You never mentioned what your unit was. And, well, you are on forums.MINIDISC.org By the way, there's another forum at http://www.atraclife.com that discusses Sony ATRAC gadgets that aren't minidiscs, like your NW-E505. They're unlikely to have a solution for this problem--Sony's encyption is a dead end--but you might find some other information you can use there. I don't think dbpoweramp deals with ATRAC/.omg/.oma at all. It's a proprietary Sony format. Edited November 17, 2007 by A440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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