Guest Anonymous Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Hey.. i think i should finally get a new md-recorder for my liverecordings.. i've been using my sharp md-sh200h for years now. i use core-sound binaural microphones, and i'm very happy with them. (at http://noowaag.com you can download lots of samples) but my md-recorder is staying together with tape..there are no screws in it anymore..the play button and stuff only work with the remote anymore.. and the battery can't record that long anymore..i did get a battery-pack back then(a very ugly black one that looks very ugly) but it does its work.. but with the batterypack the recorded is like almost the size of a home-deck hehe... So i am finally thinking of buying a new one.. the few questions that i have are: - I always adjusted the recordlevel at the show so it would be al right.. are there any new things or so that automatically get the right record level?(and what does it do when it gets a sudden loud sound) - what md-recorders do have this record level adjustment thing(while recording) so basicly..what would you people advise me to buy..it must be a small one..and pretty cheap(of course..i'm from holland...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 NooWaaG, I'd suggest you stick to Sharp. Sony units now have the ability to adjust record levels while recording, but this takes some fiddlin'. Sharp are still far simpler. Sony units have AGC (Auto gain control), but that is really only suited to voice recordings (lectures, etc.). No MD unit I'm aware of has a feature that you request. I can suggest the Sharp MD-MT190, MT877 (if you can still get it) or MT888. All small, and should be relatively cheap. The MT190 is the cheapest, but remains functional and could be an ideal unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I recorded some shows the last few days, and now i just think of another question.. my old sharp has no backlit display or something, so i have to use a lighter and stuff to see the recording level, how many time is still left for recording...so i have to get that whole thing out of my pocket to see that.. but now there are those easy remote controls.. so basically my question is: can you see the record level, how many time you have to record and stuff on the remote control(that is backlit, right) (i am talking about the sharp md-mt190..i think i'm going to buy this one.. let me know please greets, NooWaaG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystyler Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 NooWaaG, if you want a unit that does all that (the MT190 doesn't even have an LCD remote), then look at the MT888 or 899. Even then, they still lack a level meter on the remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMagus Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 are there any new things or so that automatically get the right record level?(and what does it do when it gets a sudden loud sound)What, exactly, is the "right" recording level? Ideally, if you're serious about live recording you want as much manual control as possible over this! If you want something like NetMD for live recording, that automatically normalizes sound with preset levels, you're going to get what NetMD gives you with prerecorded sources - a normalization that doesn't suit all albums (all albums are recorded at different levels, remember) or all types of songs. For example, NetMD doesn't do very well at all with CD albums that have noticably low or high recording levels. SImilarly, any automatic recording-level adjustment is going to give you something that might work for some situatuions but not for others. Nothing beats going out there and trial-erroring yourself to death until you get the feel of your equipment To answer your other question, a battery module with bass rolloff will take care of any loud sounds/excess bass you might have - the sound will be "rounded off" to prevent clipping in your recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 i guess i don't know that much about audio and stuff but when i am recording a show, i try to get the recordinglevel as close to 0 db as possible...i do have a mic with bassrolloff and stuff..i normalize my recordings when i put them on the computer.. so another question..does it matter if i don't try to get as close to 0db? and another question..i(my girlfriend actually) bought the sharp 190 thing this thing has MDLP as well..and now i am wondering..normally when i record shows that i know that will go on for more than 80 minutes i used to record in Mono..what is better to do now? record in MONO or in LP2? please let me know 'cause i gotta record Sum 41(blurghh) next tuesday with the new recorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theobreimer Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 I recently bought a Sony MZ-R909 at RAF Staffhorst, they were on sale (I am also from the Netherlands) for 289 euros. I could not find it cheaper. About the record level, before i start my recording i press the pause button, and change to manual recording in the Rec. Volume menu. Now i can adjust the recording volume during the recording just by turning the Jog wheel thing. Really easy. The unit also has automatic record control, but you should only use that for recording voice and NOT music. The last remark: When searching for the right record volume, always keep your headphones on so you can keep track of the record volume. Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 MONO, because LP2 is somthing around MP3 Quality(128kbs) which is much lower quality then standard MD. :!: Recording with stereo is really not that neccessary in a cocert, because loud speaker there is runing on mono. Only use LP2 when the recording runs over 160 min long. Always normalize on MD and on computer. Doing that on MD so that you won't get permanent distortion(one you can never fix even on computer). Normalize on computer makes recording to loudest but not distorted.(Best sound quality) Normalize MD sound to -2 to 0db at peaks. Normalize again on computer at 98% or -0.8dB. It does matter if you don't normalize properly on MD. Base on the principle of "Your copy is only as good as you source", if your source(MD) is recorded too quiet or loud, it won't sound good on you computer. The recording would have too much noise or it would be distorted - even after normalizing on computer. A 14 y.o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 thanks for those answers, i was already thinking the same, but never was really sure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMagus Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 MONO, because LP2 is somthing around MP3 Quality(128kbs) which is much lower quality then standard MD. :!: Recording with stereo is really not that neccessary in a cocert, because loud speaker there is runing on mono.I disagree. I've tried recording music in mono mode, and the result is no stereo definition, which doesn't exactly make for the best listening experience. I never use mono..although I might use it for an important spoken-word project...never tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Always normalize on MD and on computer. Doing that on MD so that you won't get permanent distortion(one you can never fix even on computer). Normalize on computer makes recording to loudest but not distorted.(Best sound quality) Normalize MD sound to -2 to 0db at peaks. Normalize again on computer at 98% or -0.8dB.A 14 y.o.When you say normalize MD sound to -2-0db, you mean based on setting the recording levels, right? I've run into some issues with what I think is simply "placement" or location at some small clubs around here, where I end up with a ton of distortion on the source recording that I'm yet to figure out how to smooth effectively on computer. (BTW, yes, new poster, with an MDMT877 and some low-cost Radio Shack stereo mics). Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 "I disagree. I've tried recording music in mono mode, and the result is no stereo definition, which doesn't exactly make for the best listening experience. I never use mono..although I might use it for an important spoken-word project...never tried it." SimonMagus You are also somewhat right. Recording music from cd to MD, you should use stereo to maintain stereo fidelity of the original STEREO CD. But recording live in a concert is different. The loud speaker in a concert is always mono. Unless you want to hear where the speaker at in you recording, mono will do fine. To have effective stereo effect in a live recording, most likely you would need many mics, stereo mixer, wires, and more. Why not stick with mono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMagus Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Unless you want to hear where the speaker at in you recording, mono will do fine. To have effective stereo effect in a live recording, most likely you would need many mics, stereo mixer, wires, and more. Why not stick with mono?True; but for me the point of MD recording is to NOT need all this stuff and still come out of an event with a decent live stereo recording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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