Particular Album / Song - Can't upload

[vkeswani]

So here's a really wierd problem.

I create mp3's. Yes... I don't rip.. but create. I have a place where I can stream music (in good quality) basically listen on demand. I then have another independent mp3 encoder program which "records" mp3's from the sound card directly and saves them to the harddrive. Been doing this for a few songs and I get very good quality (I'm using a SB external USB sound card to get the best quality).

So I try getting a song from Paul Oak., mp3 gets created just fine and I'm able to play it in any mp3 player, no problem (rio..) or winamp on the computer. Here's the kicker .. I try uploading this song via Real Player plugin to my netmd (NZ505) It goes about 5% - 10% and then and it complains that disc is full please check disk and try again. Of course only a few songs on the minidisc so definitely no problem there.

Then I use the same method and try a diff. song from a diff. album say.. Kid Rock... (this is within 10 mins of creating the previous mp3). Mp3 transfers just fine into NetMD !!!

I go back to trying to create the Paul Oak. mp3 again, same trouble, it just will not upload to netmd. I decode the mp3 to .wav... Same crap, it will not upload to Netmd ??!?!?? Basically there were a couple more songs available from that particular Paul Oak. album and same trouble... it will not upload to the netmd. Plays in every other player / software. Every other song thru. the streaming site -> mp3..works great. I'm using the lame encoder for creating the mp3's.

What in the world is going on ?

The SB USB sound card has an optical out, so tonight I'm going to try and "record" the streaming song directly to my NetMD and I will try to update this topic later. If anyone has had trouble with something like this.. please let me know.

[iceeedtea]

Welcome to the MiniDisc Community Forums. :smile:

First, are the MP3 files that you are attempting to transfer Variable Bit Rate LAME files? Or are they of CBR variety? You mention using LAME as an encoder; thus, why I ask, since LAME by default encodes using VBR. OpenMG software does not play well with VBR MP3s, as it has been documented in the past by many, many users.

If you wish to transfer the files over to MD, I suggest that you take a look at the Nero/Simple Burner method. It will allow you to transfer MP3s -> MD in LP2 mode.

Better yet; you mention that you own a Sound Blaster MP3+ USB (I am assuming that this is the model, as it is the only one being sold now). Have you considered copying files directly to the MD via optical out in real time in SP mode? It should result in higher quality copies than if you were to use the high-speed functions of NetMD, as copying MP3 files via NetMD -> MD requires an extra step - recompression of an already-compressed file using the ATRAC3 codec. Which is bad.

In addition....you mention that you use RealPlayer/RealOne to transfer to NetMD. If I may be as so bold to ask, why do you choose to use such a poorly-coded product? My suggestion to you is to uninstall RealPlayer/RealOne and all other NetMD related software, and take a look at SonicStage 2.0 + MD Simple Burner 2.0 instead, which are fully compatible with your MZ-N505.

Related links, which may be of interest to you:

SonicStage 2.0 [Full?] - a build of SonicStage 2.0 is located within this thread; however, downloads are only available by means of BitTorrent/eMule. The download lacks Windows Media 9 components and DirectX 9.

SonicStage 2.0 [36.4MB]. - yet another build of SonicStage, but is downloadable via HTTP. The installer lacks DirectX 9 and is slightly larger.

Very close to finding Sonicstage 2.0/MD Simple Burner 2.0 - could use some help! - the thread which sparked "iceeedtea" of T-Station to release instructions on how to get SonicStage 2.0 working using the 'update' installer.

SonicStage 2.0: Reloaded. [56K: WARNING.] - Installation guide for the unofficial workaround utilizing the 'update' program provided by Sony Japan/Asia Pacific. Consider this to be 'reading material', and not as a guide, as this version is discontinued and unable to transfer to NetMD, unlike the versions linked above!

[vkeswani]

In the last paragraph.. I mentioned that I was going to try the optical out solution. Also I will go with your recommendation and un-install Realplayer and go with the Sonic Stage 2.0 solution and give that a try.

The encoded files are of the CBR variety.

[Guest NRen2k5]

You ought to know that it would be better to record to PCM-WAV than MP3.

Lossy->lossy->lossy conversion is bad, mmkay?