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It was a painstaking process titling every song (made somewhat easier by the jogwheel on the MZ R50 I also own), but yet I enjoyed every minute.
You could maybe get a NetMD recorder. You can connect it to your Windows PC and title tracks using a real keyboard. That is really nice. DO NOT TRY AND USE ANY OTHER FUNCTION OF THE SONICSTAGE SOFTWARE THOUGH. It is crap. But if only for titling, owning a NetMD device is useful.
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DO NOT TRY AND USE ANY OTHER FUNCTION OF THE SONICSTAGE SOFTWARE THOUGH. It is crap.

In your opinion.

Please, I am not a Sony fanboi but there are many out there who have registered their appreciation for that which Sony's software allows you to do; that is completely impossible if you live in the world held out to us by Cupertino.

Yes there are some problems with Sonic Stage. There are some problems with i*unes. Audiophiles to a man (or woman), we appreciate Sony giving us lots of options to make up our own mind about sound quality.

I thought like you for a while - the NetMD is great for title-ing but that's about it. They gave us a much more general purpose audio tool than that. Sure, you can rage at the copy protections, but most of those proections are now relaxed, if (like many of the addicts here) you are willing to buy a deck (slow) or an MZ-RH1 (fast). In combination with Sound Forge which actually allows you to edit ATRAC files, the final version of Sonic Stage is not bad at all.

Let's keep the shouting and the denigration for someplace else. Thanks.

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Hi Matt,

Welcome to the forum. Before I answer it bothers me that you're spelling "obsolete" wrong.

Now that is out the way: Aw man, I was kinda hoping you were serious about the "stuck in the past" thing, I was just about to sharpen my pitchfork - no doubt along with my fellow MDers. :-)

What is YOUR attraction to the (now technically obselete) format, Minidisc?

I used to be a big user and evangelist of the format. My attraction now is part "train set" effect, part fed-up with mp3 players and part nostalgia. Truth be told, I also like being different and retro, if everyone has an iPod I DO NOT want one.

I also like creating compendiums of new music. I normally build up a playlist on my PC (where I listen to all my music these days) until I have ~2h 30mins of tracks "favourited". Then I record them to an MD in real-time for playback now and again.

1. How old were you when you first 'bought into' the format?

25 or so.

2. Do you still regularly use your very first player?

No it was sold. I have re-bought exactly same spec as primary unit.

3. Do you regularly 'use' your items, or are some purely of interest as a 'collector'?

Bit of both.

4. Do you listen to 'new' music on your discs, or prefer to keep the format for music 'of the era'?

Bit of both.

5. Do you own more items than you can 'practically use'?

Guilty as charged.

6. Did you 'go away' from MiniDisc', only to return to it at a later date?

I did.

7. Do you associate use of your player with 'fond memories', or is it a purely 'practical' consideration?

Bit of both.

(the question/answer format shows me you really are a Police officer :-)

Questions for you: will you share your conclusions with us? Will it be made public? Who else are you asking?

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Hi Arr-Nine-Hundred,

I'm not conducting any form of 'structural research', I am just genuinely interested in how we interact with objects and the values (and reasons for those values) that we place on objects. The reason I decided to concentrate on 'MiniDisc' is purely because it is one that motivates me personally, so I can relate to many of the answers that have been given.

The more formal part of my study focuses on the way we interact with 'technology', so I was interested to see WHY you all stick with (or have moved onto) MiniDisc.

Regards,

Matt

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Hi Matt,

1. How old were you when you first 'bought into' the format?

~35

2. Do you still regularly use your very first player?

Yes, its my main commuter unit. I use it for ~100 minutes every day.

3. Do you regularly 'use' your items, or are some purely of interest as a 'collector'?

Use it, extra units are backup units.

4. Do you listen to 'new' music on your discs, or prefer to keep the format for music 'of the era'?

I use it for both. I do transfer my new music from iTunes to SS, for transferring to my Hi-MD unit.

5. Do you own more items than you can 'practically use'?

Yes and no, I do have a backup unit to my main unit (same model) and have another that I use to transfer music with (a cheaper version that I bought a few years ago).

6. Did you 'go away' from MiniDisc', only to return to it at a later date?

No, have been with the format since my MZ-NHF800 came out.

7. Do you associate use of your player with 'fond memories', or is it a purely 'practical' consideration?

Love the quality of the sound… having a AA battery as my power source is great too to go along with my removable media.

Best Wishes,

Tony

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To me, most of those questions do not apply.

1. The convenience of use and portability, all you want is on one simple disc and you just slot it in and the entire thing fits in the palm of your hand.

2. As at then, there was no mp3 and carrying a cd player and cds were cumbersome, the cases easily damaged and the discs scratched. 3. The quality of the music, both from the big decks at home and the micros, unbelievable, and there was no other way except cds at the time. The standards remain the same to date.

4.The durability, and the confidence it gives you that the music is still there, can you imagine all this while and still going on without any hitch.

5. The ease with which it was transferred and speed via software,

Many more reasons,

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nothing wrong with living in the past. I saw recently a dismantling of the latest Apple Ipad by FixIt. seems like the days of screws has gone for Apple, to make it as easy ( = cheap ) to assemble them as possible. ( couldnt care less about repair, tough luck just throw it away - aslong as they last for as long as the warranty ) Now its just GLUE, GLUE GLUE. To repair you have to melt the glue careful to avoid melting things.....

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nothing wrong with living in the past. I saw recently a dismantling of the latest Apple Ipad by FixIt. seems like the days of screws has gone for Apple, to make it as easy ( = cheap ) to assemble them as possible. ( couldnt care less about repair, tough luck just throw it away - aslong as they last for as long as the warranty ) Now its just GLUE, GLUE GLUE. To repair you have to melt the glue careful to avoid melting things.....

What you're trying to say is "we now live in a disposable world" and you are right :(

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to be fair - how many of us had gear like MD portables, and even moreso expensive personal cassette players, made from aluminium cases that were held together with screws - only to realise that after time, half the screws had fallen out? Happened to me all the time.

Never. I look after my gear though, I do not throw it around.

Sidenote: all my MD gear is made in Japan - this is something you do not see much of these days.

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1: 32, used them from 1995-2001 as a (rock) DJ Absolutey best then, remember no MP3 and practicly no CD-Recorders.

2: No - I still have them, but have moved on to LP2 and Hi-Md

3: Daily, i have 2 stereo systems with decks, and a Japanese car radio with LP2 , which i also use (via AUX)with a Hi-MD

Portable player

4: I record new albums or Radio podcasts to Minidisc to listen with my car radio or portable player

5:Yes, definatley

6: Yes, for 5-6 years, then my daughter caught on with Minidisc, so now i check out the Fleamarkets in my region for MD-items

or E-bay etc to enlage my collection

7, Like Cassete tapes, vinyl albums, reel to reel tape, all which i collect and use regulary, this is a life-long fascination with Hi-Fi, and the quest for "good sounding" recordings and the often tedious repair work needed to keep all this stuff working.

Minidisc is a good -sounding resiliant transportable format.

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1. How old were you when you first 'bought into' the format?

11

2. Do you still regularly use your very first player?

I still have it and when I use MD, yes!

3. Do you regularly 'use' your items, or are some purely of interest as a 'collector'?

I don't collect anymore.

4. Do you listen to 'new' music on your discs, or prefer to keep the format for music 'of the era'?

I have an iPod for music and podcasts now, sorry:-( But I'm thinking of using my MD for audiobooks and radio shows. Most of these kinds of tracks are mono so if I record them that way, I can fit a lot of my MD. Works better than having two iPods and is cheaper than using some kind of streaming subscription service.

5. Do you own more items than you can 'practically use'?

Not any more!

6. Did you 'go away' from MiniDisc', only to return to it at a later date?

I go back and forth. Yeah. I only use it when I can justify it.

7. Do you associate use of your player with 'fond memories', or is it a purely 'practical' consideration?

Both

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1. How old were you when you first 'bought into' the format?

25 in 2003. Although I remember wanting to get into MD back in the mid-90's, in my high school years, but it just wasn't very affordable for me to do back then.

2. Do you still regularly use your very first player?

Yes, I use it to record music off of the computer.

3. Do you regularly 'use' your items, or are some purely of interest as a 'collector'?

I use them a good bit but in recent years I have slowed down on collecting them. I do have some disks that are still sealed and I plan on keeping them for my collection.

4. Do you listen to 'new' music on your discs, or prefer to keep the format for music 'of the era'?

Yes. Although I do like picking up some old MD albums which is nice because alot of it is music I listened to in the 90's.

5. Do you own more items than you can 'practically use'?

Yes & no. I have 12 portable players (9 MDLP & 3 Hi-MD) but only 1 car stereo with MDLP and a home deck with MDLP.

6. Did you 'go away' from MiniDisc', only to return to it at a later date?

I seem to go through phases where I use it alot and other times when I don't use it very much. Although I do use MD at least once a week when I record and upload a radio program from Sirius XM (with one of my Hi-MD recorders & in Hi-SP) for my own personal listening enjoyment later on. I do have a 160GB Ipod that I use to listen to music while I'm at work but that's just because it is the most simple solution for that.

7. Do you associate use of your player with 'fond memories', or is it a purely 'practical' consideration?

Kind of both. I've been using them to record concerts and local band concerts for a little over 5 years now. Those recordings are fond memories for me but the fact that MD was the most logical choice to record them makes it a practical decision. I already had a couple of MD recorders so all I had to do was buy some microphones and I was able to record stuff. No need to buy more equipment in order to record. Plus most of my portable MD units takes 1 AA battery, which I can buy anywhere so I will always be able to power up and use my little machines.

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Hi folks,

I just want to thank you all for your replies. it all makes for very interesting reading. Your replies have been invaluable, as they have afforded a very different perspective to what i experienced 'growing up'.

The 'assignment' (such as it was) was to examine our relationship with material objects. My personal experience was that I placed a huge 'value' on my music collection, and as such, placed a huge value on my MiniDisc collection. Over the years, I feel I have attained greater 'value' from MiniDisc as the price has fallen over the years. My 'golden years' of using MiniDisc are those when i had the 'disposable income' to spend on the format. Now that I have various other commitments, it is reassuring that I can still afford to invest in the format (especially after having invested in MP3 and having it 'fail me' to a huge cost!)

It will be a year to the day (today) that Sony have abandoned the format. I think it is a shame, but I also recognise that it has been deemed obselete by 'superior' formats. For me it will always hold a 'special place' in my affections. From the replies I have received, it looks like I am not alone.

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The formats I prefer to use is and will be the minidisc format. I have the MP3 SanDisk and Apple iPod; but, the heart stays with minidisc. The biggest reason is the quality of the sound, storage and battery life (used AA batteries or the LIP battery supplied); whereas, the SanDisk and Apple internal battery fails the unit is at an end and storage as well.

Minidisc, you can swap storage easily!

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1. How old were you when you first 'bought into' the format?

17.

2. Do you still regularly use your very first player?
Not really…because it's had such heavy use in the early days it now has occasional problems with playback, so now it's purely used for NetMD track titling/arranging etc.

3. Do you regularly 'use' your items, or are some purely of interest as a 'collector'?
Use them every other week when I have time to sit down and listen. Used to have a massive collection, but eventually narrowed it down down to 3 HiMD, 3 LP, 2 SP, and 2 Decks.

4. Do you listen to 'new' music on your discs, or prefer to keep the format for music 'of the era'?
Any music!

5. Do you own more items than you can 'practically use'?
Yes and no...8 units and 2 decks is more than enough for me, but each has their own specific 'job'. The SP units for my SP MDs, LP units for LP2 mixes, HiMD for recording, and decks for playing on speakers.

6. Did you 'go away' from MiniDisc', only to return to it at a later date?
Yes. First unit started playing up after 4 years of solid service, so I caved in and got an MP3 player. 6 years later I bought an RH1 and before I could say "broken bank", I started raiding eBay for more units I missed out on from back in the day. Let's just say I missed the format…

7. Do you associate use of your player with 'fond memories', or is it a purely 'practical' consideration?
More for practical consideration. Saying that, I no longer take my portables outdoors for fear of damaging them (I realise how silly that might sound, but consider this: for every irreplaceable/unrepairable MD unit there are a squillion new MP3 players being churned out everyday!) so they stay at home for full, concentrated listening i.e not as background music. On my travels, I leave the incessant track skipping to my MP3 Walkman ;)

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I am living the past on so many levels that my co-worker laughs at me for it. I buy physical books to read and don't use tablets for reading novels. I use and collect fountain pens and refill my highlighters. I still have 2 boxes vinyls and cassette tapes (originally belonged to my father) and about 6 shoe boxes of VHS tapes. I love "vintage" stuff. In fact, I use the old CD cartridge cases to carry some CDs. --the CD jewel cases used in the first CD Burners, they look like giant versions of minidiscs. What I really liked about recording off of minidiscs was that it made me feel like I was a music producer or editor. I envisioned myself in a booth and would record through my headphones and insert T-marks and type in the titles and artists. Even though these minidisc were for me. I never did record much from CDs, but I used the line in to record from my computer (had just discovered Napster in the late 90s). My first machine was a refurbished silver MZ-R50 my father bought me with about 6-9 74 minute discs. I had a few Music Jack discs and a few of the boring black/grey Sony "recordable minidisc Quick Random Access" discs. I would always be rearranging the tracks or discs for the ultimate listening experience. I don't consider myself a Hipster, but I get nostalgic. Now I will answer the questions after the trip down memory lane.

1. I was 12-13 when my father bought this for me so a surprise from a trip to Hong Kong.

2. I can't use my first player because it got lost in a move, but I now have another that was bundled together from an EBay purchase I made with a MZ-RH910. But the MZ-R50 was so long and using the 2 double AA battery compartment made it even worse. It was always in my bag as I walked to and from school with a ridiculously long headphone cord trailing.

3. I use the discs for music, podcasts, and audiobooks now and I do also collect. I prefer machines with the slide to open type instead of the squishy side plastic button opening.

4. I put anything on these discs.

5. I have about 20 portable machines. No decks. So yeah, more than I practically can use. Favorite is the MZ-NF810 - because sometimes I listen to public radio. To bad you couldn't record straight off the radio.

6. Went away when the iPod/Archos machines came out, but came back about a year ago when I found an old disc that wasn't lost. Found that machines like the N505 were relatively cheap. There begins the addiction.

7. I do associate with find memories. I only saw one other kids in my school with minidiscs. He had a better selection and to me it seemed a better machine to. I think it was a Sharp or Panasonic.

Sorry for the long post.

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