Thanks for that really didn't help the situation either way one send me to Japan for item I was not allowed to buy or even begin to purchase and the other one was in Australia with other options that weren't unable to possess off of their site. And I've been watching eBay and if so few far and in-between I just looking for a northern American dealer that may have something similar to that device that will transfer the relay from PC to MD cuz it doesn't look like I'll be able to ever find one