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My friend A440, forgot to mention www.reactivesounds.com. High quality, reliable microphones with elegant designs Gerry
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Percussive, thanks for the great review! Ben, The Auris require 2-10 v forward bias voltage. Most minidisc recorders provide the bias voltage thru the mic jack, and commonly call this "Plug-in-power". The typical voltage provided by a minidisc recorder is 2.5v. The type of recording environment that you have described is a loud recording environment. The microphones would perform far better if they were powered closer to the 10v range. You can do this by either adding on the Reactive Sounds Juice box (ie 9 volt power supply), or adding on the Reactive Sounds Boost box (9v power supply PLUS pre-amp). In both cases you would be feeding the output signal into the "Line-in" on your recorder. Thanks and let us know what you decided, and why? Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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You may be right, however Line Level standard is all over the place. It's different on every piece of equipment out there. Where do you read about 16/30 being a standard? Thanks Gerry
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Hi Tim. Yes it can get confusing and overwhelming. Try this out: When using the Boost box or any other pre-amp for that matter you should set the external pre-amp to it's maxium position (before it begins to clip), then adjust the MD internal recording level to the maxiumum. If you find that the external pre-amp is overloading the MD recorder, back off the recording level on the MD recorder until it is approx 6db below the clipping point. Your running a line out signal. It requires no further amplification, thus you should run it hot into your recorder and reduce the signal if it is too high. I hope that helps Gerry
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It is better to have the mic elements seperated, however when we first designed the Delta mic we used a number of foam shells to see how it would sound. I was surprised to find that the stereo image was really quite good. My best stereo image recordings have been when I placed myself infront of the subject at a distance of approx 10-15 ft. We are working on two new single point stereo microphones, but at this point they are still very much in the prototype stage, and I'd rather not get into any specific details. Sincerly Gerry Bolda www.reactivesounds.com
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Hi guys, just following this thread....I will add that you can also, use the juice box thru the mic-in as well. This would be when you wish to record quieter sounds. The benefit here is the bigger dynamic range that is obtained from the 9v power supply. Don't worry , you won't be pumping 9v into the mic jack, the circuitry inside the juice box supplies that power only to the mic's. You asked why our model is $10 less. We run a less expensive business model than sound pro's, I think they have a retail outlet and that means bigger operating costs, and thus higher prices. If your in the US you can order quickly and easily from our distributor http://www.minidisco.com/juicebox.html, and of course you can order thru us. Thanks, and let us know your experiences? Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Hi Melissa, you can order both the Delta and Micpod from minidisco, they will extend our money back satisfaction guarantee. Why not give us a try. Gerry www.reactivesounds.com PS I am taking my drums on a rd trip this weekend, would a recording help?
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To Preamp Or Not To Preamp... That Is The Question
Reactive replied to jboss's topic in Live Recording
Your best bet (given your budget) would be to use a battery box http://www.reactivesounds.com/ps1.php. For recording loud concerts your need to power those mic's as much as possible, throw in a radio shack attenuator and you can adjust the mic's output so that you don't overload the minidisc internal pre-amp. Gerry www.reactivesounds.com -
Hi Dex, Your description of the fixed gain vs the variable gain is mostly correct. To recapitulate: The fixed gain pre-amp is not the best way to boost a mic signal. Too much noise from the gain setting. Let me see if I can give an example that I can understand (sorry too many Canada Day celebrations yesterday). Recording example: You have a fixed gain pre-amp and your in a setting that requires a gain boost of approx. 35db. With a fixed gain pre-amp your only option is to choose from 29db or 50db. Your stuck in the middle with too liitle amplification or too much. Most likely your going to choose the 50db setting. But how do you know? No clipping meter or VU meter to guide you? If you choose the 50db setting and your clipping the output, yes you can adjust the level down with the rotary level meter, but as Dex say's it's not an efficient use of the amplifier circuit. Why run it at full throttle and then have to lower the output level? It makes no sense. The fully adjustable gain found on the Reactivesounds Boost box (from zero to 36db) is a more efficient design, with the clipping meter you can nail that recording time and time again. We chose the cut off point at 36db because I felt the noise level beyond this point would be too high. As I mentioned in a previous post, "the noise level is present at all times, and you can only ever get it down to a managable level" Sure if you throw ton's of money at it you end up with a Mackie style pre-amp, very quiet, expensive, and not suited for portable use. Thanks Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Hi, I can offer you a host of personal experiences, particularly with recording of singular African drums and group drumming circles. I play a few different sized djembies (depending on the group size), and often take along my recording gear. I can tell you that is both frustrating and rewarding to record group drumming sessions. Your biggest enemy will be the overwhelming SPL (sound pressure levels) that peak and drop as sound waves converge together. It will most likely take a few practice sessions to get the desired recording. Things to avoid: Recording a group indoors- It's just too loud, unless you want to invest in more than a microphone (pre-amps, external power supplies ect). For a solo drum recording I have had GREAT success with a dual mic system, ie Auris mics, one placed near the drumming pad and the other clipped to my body. It took a few attempts to get the volumes balanced correctly, but was well worth the effort. For simplicity the Delta mic and Midpod (designed by us and copied by our competitors over at Microphone Madness) will be best utilized by having the drum group form an arc, the recording microphone would be placed in front of the group facing them at a distance of approx 6ft-10ft. Being omni's they are not directional, BUT Given the housing that we mount them in i can tell you that i have recorded in many a busy street location and they just do not pick up sound from the rear as much as you would think. We have a good sound sample on the Delta product page (steet performance). I hope that helps, without pushing our own great products the above advice will work for other manufacturers microphones (your results may vary). Let us know how what you decided? Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Hi Guys, It's probably no surprise to hear that I have been following this thread for a while. I felt it important to keep in the shadows until all comments good and bad had been put forth. The Boost box was designed out of necessity. My own personal recording experiences often left me feeling frustrated at the equipment limitations. Limitations such as: 1. Internal pre-amp noise 2. Internal pre-amp overloading in loud recording environments. 3. The lack of a reliable clipping aid to prevent pre-amp overload in dark locations. 4. The lack of proper power to the microphone elements, as the MD recorders output power was far too low. 5. The lack of an on the fly adjustable gain. Basically I required an all-in-one solution. The Boost box was born. Nothing else like it on the market, does what it says and does it well. I am intrigued at the experiements that you have conducted on the internal noise, and I will run my own to see if I get the same results. I will conclude with this, internal equipment noise is the most costly, most difficult thing to reduce, without creating a $1000 pre-amp. You can only ever get it down to a manageable level. I can create a very good recording at Max gain with the Boost box, and without having to further amplify in post software editing. Every 6bd of amplfication doubles the noise floor, and I try to avoid this at all costs. Thanks for your very detailed comments in the previous posts Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Not Enough Live Recordings In Gallery/archive..
Reactive replied to Christopher's topic in Live Recording
Thanks Chris, I have loads of really cool, short recording clips to upload. I will make time to do this. The latest is a massive hydraulic powered rock drill on tracks, a totally mean machine. Gerry www.reactivesounds.com -
With a pre-amp to match that mic you;ll be more than fine. Just run the output into the line-in of the recorder. Typically MD recorders that have a mic jack can only use a scaled down version of a condensor mic, called an electret mic. They are powered by a small amount of voltage provided by the md recorder. Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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I am setting up some time to do a similar recording myself. In this case it's a busy Irish Pub with some really great live bands. They play along with some PA equipment for the lower volume instuments. It's not so loud that you cannot have a conversation (well if you shout you can). My recording plan is this: Head on down with my Auris Stereo Microphone, and a minidisc recorder, very simple set up. When I arrive at a venue I always spend a good 20 minutes walking around the band stopping and listening. I am trying to find the null bass area's in the room. These are the dead spots where the sound waves do not superimpose themselves creating a huge amount of energy that is distasterous for recording. Once I am happy with the location I will try to set up my gear there. If it's stealth mode, I 'll be wearing the mic's on my shirt collars or up high near my head. At that point it's a matter of turning on the recorder and setting the level's to approx 85% or -12db if you have a VU meter. I then occasionally monitor the show if the volume levels are not consistant. It's not a good idea to fiddle around with the gain once you have started recording, far better off to set it with adequate headroom. (If you are allowed to record you should bring some suction cups, some electrical tape, some sticky tack putty and a few elastic bands. These will all be handy for mounting the microphones on various bits of hardware or parts of the building). A seperate pre-amp such as the Boost box with a clipping led will make the monitoring job much easier. You can store the MD in your pocket with the buttons locked and make all your adjustments from the top panel of the pre-amp. Probably the best advice I can give without getting really technical is to get out and record as much as you can, become familiar with your gear and soon you'll be on your way to making some great recordings. Best of luck Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Your Feedback Requested (boost Box Users Esp.)
Reactive replied to smkranz's topic in Live Recording
Hi, check out this thread for a review of our fine pre-amp http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showt...425&hl=boostbox If you have any questions please feel free to post here, or contact me personally Gerry www.reactivesounds.com -
My mistake, It is I who misunderstood you. .. No, I certainly do not mean that you or anyone else should go and "f@#K" all the technical blather, however you can get lost in it big time. My approach is to make the best recording you can upfront, go minimal on post editing. Peace Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Wow guys those were terrific responses! I can't add anything to this, except do practice in as many locations as you can. That means close, far, taped together, split apart, wind sheilded with an unbrella, or a piece of foam, or some panty hose. You need to fail a few times to know what works and what does not. Even a cheap microphone will give great results it you know where to locate it. Good luck Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Perfection is a prison..... I concur with some of the above members about capturing the "live" essence of the recording. What you may not realize here, and until you have a few months of recording, in fact even better when you have a few years. Is that a magical event happens when you slap on the headphones and play back one of your earlier recordings, you literally time warp back to the moment that you recorded. It's like a massive memory trigger. I can close my eyes and I am there, right back at the very moment I made the recording. Often I reply to people that just want to record shows and concerts, and that's an awesome experience to have under your belt. Try recording other important events in your life, clip your mini mic's to your lapels and record away. It could be a graduation, a wedding, a day at the beach. Store the unedited recording away for a while. Upon playback months or years later, you will experience the time warp effect. I did this for a freinds wedding and gave them the cd with a time clause note, saying "do not open until your first wedding aniversary". It really blew them away, all the emotions of the day came flooding back to them. Was an awesome gift. Live is something that should be edited very carefully, I would touch only volumes, and the odd bit of unwanted clatter in your recording. Good luck, and let us know how your results were Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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This is a good point indeed. I will post a few recordings of the mono plug in mic, and the stereo plug in mic for comparison, nothing like letting your ears be the judge. Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Mic noise accounts for some of the background noise. Pre-amp noise can be the biggest culprit. Just turn up the gain all the way and you will hear lots of hiss, that is electronic noise, and it's very difficult to get rid of. Most manufacturers strive to reach at least some level of acceptable noise without being too expensive. Minidisc pre-amps are not that good for recording in quiet locations. We designed and built a super low noise pre-amp to address this problem. It was no easy task, however I do believe we created a pre-amp that is vastly quieter than the MD pre-amp and does not cost a fortune. Keep in mind that you can easily spend over $1000 for a pre-amp, at this point only small reductions in noise can be achieved. My best minidisc recorder with the quietest pre-amp is a Sharp. Good luck and let us know how you made out? Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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I Make my own Check out this thread for more info http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showt...&hl=wind+screen Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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You won't be able to use it for quiet recordings unless you have an external pre-amp. That's another $199 on top for a quality pre-amp (plug) I still think minidisc with it's mic jack, built in pre-amp, line in, and now bigger disc capacity is the way to go. Plus all your data in one box, naaaa if you loose it or it crashes your toast. I much prefer having a few discs to that I use on a rotation. Thanks Gerry www.reactivesounds.com
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Please contact me at www.reactivesounds.com Thanks Gerry
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The Micpod was created for this reason alone. It's not always needed, however for the quite recordings i find it an absolute must. An extension cable costs less for sure, but then your left with "ummm now how am i going to mount this" http://reactivesounds.com/mt1.php Gerry