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As far as I can remember from previously looking at NetMD and whether or not titles can be edited on standard MD format discs; being able to transfer back from MD -> computer or being editable are reciprocally controlled by the 'Track protect' flag. If this is set on the MD track, it can be transferred back to the PC, but not edited. If the flag is cleared, then the track can NOT be transferred to PC, but can be edited. It appears to be nothing to do with SCMS.

Yea got a silver R50 and had it for a few years. I get it out every so often to stroke it and remember how Sony used to make things that lasted. Sound quality is top-notch; either going in or coming out.

There's articles over on BetaNews and Engadget essentially describing how Sony are giving up on their music download service. I'd have added it to the News section but not allowed, apparently. See here: http://www.betanews.com/article/Report_Son...nect/1182178516 http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/17/sony-pu...on-playstation/

What sort of Mac do you have: PowerPC or Intel? For the latter you should certainly go for Parallels as a virtual machine..

A 'C13' error means the disc Table Of Contents can't be read. Unfortunately if that happens with every disc, especially blanks, then it sounds terminal for your machine.

If you can get hold of a Japanese N10 they have the very nice two-line remote RM-MC35ELK (BTW I tried an RM-MC40ELK and it stunned the unit for a couple of days) Also no AV limit. The grey ones are extra cool.

Going to Blu-Ray would surely be bad news... we don't even know how long recordable DVDs will last, let alone these newer media types. Let's stick with MO technology, which is probably the digital recording medium with the best longevity. The technology is already there for hand-held video. At the moment I can play a 350 MB .avi saved to a standard MD (formatted as HiMD) from my NH1 via USB2, so all that's lacking is a decoder and a little screen. With the size of the screen possible on these hand-held devices, there's no point to the extra capacity offered by Blu-Ray which is really designed for the huge bandwidth requirements of high definition AV recording or gaming. Let's also not forget the cumulative appeal of Hi/MD: the ability to simply change a a disc if it gets full.

Yes thanks for the clarification TLV, and my point of originally posting in this thread concerns your second example. However I am not here to say the MDH-10 is the current Holy Grail of MD transfer, or to point out the shortcomings of HiMD. Some people in this thread have seen fit to make critical statements of 'slowness' and general 'dissatisfaction', but they appear to have very short memories or simply cannot take a history from the repository of information here. Remember that it wasn't long ago that absolutely no MD/HiMD device could upload anything, and some of us who had adopted the MD system since 1998 made the decision to invest in the means to transfer any MD stuff across to the PC to preserve the recordings; because there was no hope that Sony would ever go down that route. It's that simple, and the fact that such a legacy system still yields one advantage over the newer machines is a happy accident for me, and the fault of Sony. Having wrestled with SCMS and disc cloning techniques for ages, nothing made me personally happier than to see Sony relax the DRM as far as they felt able, despite tying it into the purchase of new hardware. I will probably get an RH1 myself one day, but until then I'm content with the MDH-10 and the W1 to copy TOCs, discs, and make backups of the MD/MDLP material. Meanwhile I have an NH1, and stuff the 1GB HiMD with as much content as possible. Some of this is from recordings made in SP on my old JE510. Nevertheless I would like to think I can still post information about what one can and cannot do with standard MD/MDLP, without it being seen as a threat to the supposed omnipotence of HiMD.

No those units should do it all right. Connect the JE510 (optical out) -> Edirol( optical in) -> PC (usb) and record in real time via Audacity. As far as I know the SCMS copy protection is obeyed by the Edirol unit, but if the MD you get from the radio station is an original recording, then you are allowed to make one copy to the PC.

Nope, if you read around a bit more you'll see it's useful for many other things, including the recovery of data from damaged MDs, copying and reconstruction of TOCs, surface scanning of MDs, and SCMS bit manipulation.

Will do if I can, but I need to check its source and whether it can be released into the public domain. Sorry to appear difficult, but it was given to me in good faith by an application developer.

If you say so. However NetMD recordings at least can be uploaded by the MDH-10, so what's the problem with the speed when this can't be done at all by any current HiMD player/SS combination? May I ask what your point is, in a thread about uploading from MD to PC via an MD drive? I'm trying to answer your particular questions, but everything seems unsatisfactory to you.

Uploading means moving from MD -> PC... so no; the At3Player of course won't do that. As I said earlier, the ATRAC3 files are uploaded to PC via an MDH-10. These files can be then played by the At3Player, and transcoded to .wav files at >4x speed by linking to TotalRecorder.

Yep - that's pretty much the reason. The application is only ~850K, and dynamic resources make all the difference between the CPU fan switching in, or not. Mem useage of At3 vs. SS 4.2...

It's an official Sony application, and was given to me by a developer.

Rich - any chance you guys could leave a redirect for thread moves..? It was slightly awkward to find this one again... No, it's not. It's the standalone ATRAC3 player I use.

The MZ-NH1 is USB-powered via the cable for file transfer only. AFAIK the battery cannot be recharged by this type of connection. I'm pretty sure you always have to use the cradle for battery charging.

Well that codec never worked for me, I'm afraid. This one, and there no nonsense about "set back the date":

Unfortunately this is not true for files saved to minidisc via NetMD. As far as I know these remain non-transferrable, even with the RH1. @Richard44: You can upload to PC via a Sony MD-Data drive such as the MDH-10, but you need to buy the software from EDL in Bristol, UK. Also the drive itself is SCSI-2 based so you need a suitable card for your PC, and the drive firmware has to be modified (this is included in the price). Both SP tracks can be then transferred as proprietary ATRAC or transcoded to WAV files in the digital domain. The LP2/4 data needs to be transcoded via a Sony ATRAC3 software player linked to something like TotalRecorder.

Ah ok - I thought mplayer just played the file and captured in real-time. Could you provide a link for the version you're using? As you say, it's always good to check these things out. BTW just for completeness, it appears that BeLight now has a VOB input file capability.

Perhaps an easier freeware application for audio extraction from DVDs is DVD Decrypter, which will identify the individual audio stream(s) within a title and demultiplex them out. This occurs at several times faster than real-time; with the maximum dependent on the rip speed of the DVD-ROM/DVD-RW. Edit: Once you have the AC3 file, then decode to WAV with something else freeware such as BeLight.

IIRC all modern MD units have at least 40 sec skip protection. You know, you could always try and see. What's the worst that could happen?

Yes, but NetMD transfers are still prevented.

Yes - the whole idea was not to charge the usual high rates, because I'm not interested in it as a business-case proposition. People may be not happy about sending valuable discs via post either. Of course all MD owners with access to a PC or Mac can transfer stuff for free via optical cable as outlined by other members above, as long as SCMS can be ignored. Remember though that the RH-1 will not allow pseudo-SP or LP2/4 transfers originally made by NetMD.

I'm with you on that one. I do have a way, but it's not something that can be distributed to members - it's the EDL transfer software that decodes SP to .wav at 4x real-time. If there's sufficient interest, then it may be worthwhile offering it as a service through the forum. Whilst still considering whether I can manage it, I don't mind helping out selected members on a limited basis.