having experienced the creative zentouch, i would have to disagree. the touch pad is problematic (particularly compared to the ipod), the software is rudimentary (again compared to the elegance of itunes) and it is significantly more bulkier design wise... which is why i no longer have it. much as i am drawn to the sony hdmd, the overwhelmingly negative response to sonic stage coupled with the draconican drm, means that i have not made the same mistake twice. which is nice.