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Ok, did a quick test on DSEE:
Atrac3Plus@48k: No Effect.
Atrac3Plus@64k: No Effect.
Atrac3Plus@96k: Improves the high range and cleans it up (less artefacting)
Atrac3@66k(LP4): High range improves audibly, but the other LP4-drawbacks stay
Atrac3@105k(LP2): Slight high range improvement. Sounds cleaner
Atrac3@132k(LP2): Sounds cleaner
LC-AAC@80k and above: No Effect.
MP3@96k: It really cleans it up. It is like going from 96kBit to 128kBit.
MP3@112k: Less dramatic, like going to 128kBit.
MP3@128k: Less dramatic, like going to 160kBit.
WMA9@48k: Takes out a lot of the grime this bad codec produces. High range improves considerably.
WMA9@64k: It really cleans it up, high range comes out real nicely.
WMA9@96k: Removes almost all of the residue this codec produces. Plus the high range as before.
Conclusion:
I really don't know, why DSEE has no effect on Atrac3Plus@48&64k,
I tried it with files from all previous SonicStage versions back to 3.0.
I can only suspect, that there are not enough hints remained in the data for DSEE to work with.
I will rerip the test track tomorrow with this SonicStage-version and see, if that changes.
However, for WMA-victims, DSEE is a godsend. The same goes for bad MP3-codecs. (Like the one SonicStage uses)
In essence, the better the result is without DSEE, the lesser the effect is.
Another point: DSEE seems not to have any effect, when compressed data has been recoded.
I have a bunch of MP3s converted to LP2 and there is no effect,
while the samples used for the above tests had been created directly from CD.
If I find time tomorrow, I'll record a few samples from DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale)
and see, if that low datarate stuff improves.
I already downloaded it, but where's that: Atrac3Plus@96k??? I only see
48 & 64 k in the options window.
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It does. It really does. The technology is somewhat similar to Panasonic's "DOUBLE REMASTER" or "MULTI REMASTER" on their modern DVD-players, but DSEE really works a naturally softer, SONYer way. On PC only (yet?)...
And it is most probably able to add some more "naturality" at high bitrates, despite what I said above.
ADDED: The technology has nothing in common with MP3pro, HE-ACC, or WMA. It is about restoration, not acoustical deception.
Mh, Im sorry if I didn't get it well, but if I have a disk already recorded, what would this new version add to it? or should I have to transfer all the files again for it to take effect?
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If it works the same as the NH700's EQ, it consists of six bands, four presets and two custom settings. The bands are 100Hz, 250Hz, 630Hz, 1.6kHz, 4kHz and 10kHz. Each band can be lowered or raised by three steps, making a total of seven (-3/-2/-1/0/+1/+2/+3).
The presets look like that:
Heavy (+1/0/-1/0/+1/0)
Pops - (-1/0/+1/0/-1/0)
Jazz - (+2/0/0/-2/0/+1)
Unique (+2/-1/0/0/-1/+2)
Custom1
Custom2
Here's a little insight to the EQ's behavior. To gain bass, you basically need to lower the other bands:
That´s such great info!. Thanks green machine.
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Hi everyone, I am about to buy a MZ NH6OOD and I need some help regarding the equalizer. Is it customizable?, how many presets it has? I've been checking out some pictorials and reviews of this model but there are very little info about it. I'd be very grateful if someone could post a picture of the Eq displayed or a link where I could see it. Thank you.
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Bah, if they really are sorry then they should offer a firmware upgrade for the RH10
Hey, that´s a great idea that we can extend to the whole second generation of Hi- Md´s don´t you think? Hmm,but will they hear us?
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I suspect thats FW vs USB1.1 But regardless what has latency to do with HiMD/MD though?
I wish my HiMD had faster transfer aswell. Its one of the bit drawbacks of the player. I'd like to know the specifics of how the RH1 achieves faster speeds.
In fact is FW vs Usb 2.0!! And yeah, it has absolutely nothing to do with Hi-
Md but since we were talking of speed differences through connections. Richyhu put this address where you can see one interesant article about how the RH1 works, maybe you already saw it :
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Whats that got to do with FW?
We were talking of speed through a Firewire connection. In several audio software through a souncard or a digital mix it is better FW than USB due to the latency in recording. But as I said before, it´s hard that Sony would make any change from USB to FW.
Yep. If have two iPods, one FW the other USB 2.0 and are filling it with 40GB+ of music, then YES, the FW will be faster than USB 2.0. But how often would you be filling the entire HDD with music? After the first time, most folks are going to add a few songs at a time and then the speed difference will be negilible.
It´s not only music. How about data?
That's correct. Similar thing happens if you put an MDLP disc in a non-MDLP unit.
Really? Oh, then I´m paranoid!!!
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Or digital music recording through a soundcard. Mmm, then maybe it´s not suitable for Hi-Md stuff. Anyway, I don´t think that Sony would make any changes like that.
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It seemed so.Thanks for the info!
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Speed differences over USB 2.0 would be insignificant on a portable player. FW has been around for over 10years and is older than USB 1.1 never mind USB2.0. Its as common as it will ever be.
A friend of mine owns an Ipod with Firewire and another one (more recent) with a USB connection and believe me, the one with Firewire is really fast. I did ignore how old FW is, but I think that it´s great. Now I wonder if the difference it´s about whether if it´s a HD or a Flash mem.
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I don´t think it´s the engineers. Rather the marketing, afraid you´d use it to "steal" their precious. (music)
When u insert a 1 Gb. disc into a Net Md player it reads right away that it´s the Hi- Md media and that can´t be playable or readable. I wonder: how come a unit that was made in ´02 (in the case of mine) has information about Hi- Md if it was made like two years later?? was it made long ago?
It seems to me that they deliver their formats and units little by little so they could get more money. It´s not a honest thing ´cause now you can get Net Md players very cheap, but back in the day they were so expensive.
And maybe now they have in their hands the model that will see the light in ´08, that could have a lot of improvements.... who knows? But in the meantime we are wasting our money on units that lack of a lot of things. Yeah, those engineers may work hard but the managers say the last word.
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Whats the point of firewire on a HiMD or a HD player. It wouldn't take advantage of the extra speed and is a less common standard.
Mmm well, as I said, if they improve the optical block it would make it really faster than a flash memory and we wouldn´t be thinking about buying one of these just because our Hi-md is soooo slow. And yeah, it´s not as common right now but it will be with time I guess.
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USB 2.0 may be supported, but that doesn't mean the unit will take full advantage of the speed of USB 2.0, merely that it is "compatible" with USB 2.0. That is like saying the earlier MD units were "compatible" with mp3. The speed restraints have everything to do with the write speed of the optical block, which just isn't that fast compared to a HDD or USB 2.0 flash units.
I would like to see true drag and drop of music files to the unit - with playback.
In fact it´d be great a Firewire connection but since Sony engineers are so...stingy? but well, not even Ipod are using it in their new gen. Anyway, I think they could make that optical block to work faster than previous ones, that way I don´t see any reason to get a flash memory. Again, I think Im dreaming..
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Well I downloaded the 3.4 version like two months ago. I wonder if it´s worth to download this newer version. Could somebody help me? Any good reasons? I own a RH-910. And hey, what the hell means CP? Thanks.
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Whether intentional or not, the crippled mp3 playback seems to be fixed now in their latest unit, the RH1. Still no drag&drop though.
So, it´s through a unit? It makes no sense to me coz it´d be more practical through the software. So we have to get that model only for such thing, and without the drag & drop utility! and I am pretty sure that they still use the USB 1.1 or something. Are the guys at Sony idiots?
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Hi everyone, I am sorry if this has been posted before or if I posted it in the wrong place
Ok, what I want to say and shear with ya is my concern about one thing that you maybe already know: Why Sony hates Mp3´s??? That "so called" compatibilty is bullshit and what Sonic Stage can do to any Mp3 is just a crime!!I mean, they say that there´s no change to the format through SS and surprisingly all the lows and highs are cut and the result is a shitty sound that no one would like to hear. But yeah, I guess they do it so you can see a difference between their Atrac format and mp3, but this is fake!!! I mean, Atrac is a great format but why not let us choose what we want? It´d be great to just drag and drop stuff and hear it right away, without the use of SS. Will they ever hear our complains?
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Hi everyone, I ´ve got a trouble downloading manuals. It opens Acrobat Reader but for some unknown reason it blocks the system and I have to reiniciate it. If anyone could help me I´d be very grateful. Also, it would be nice to put these files in Rar or Zip. Thank you very much.
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Ah, thank you very much, I thought it was in the transfers speed panel.