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You mean they have it in STORE where you are? , I have to order everything no fair. (No rolls dealers in this area of Japan)

I tried a shorten file off Internet Archive , and was really suprised at just how it "Uncompressed" it was TOO clean, Live gig using extremely nice mics to DAT , and straight to a shortn file, no post proccessing at all , OUCH

http://www.rolls.com/products/mx34.php

I wub uuuuuu , me mp3 pwayr soooo happy now YAY I also bookmarked that page , thx

I bow gracefully and humbly to your stature, ( wow 14 Grand kids) I have a hard enough time keeping up with the One kid I got.

Rolls MX34 , (100 dollars) , two 9 volt batteries , run to the line input on the recorder Hook up your mics, and go http://www.rolls.com/products/mx34.php

The Tascam DP01 , for just plain basic , and easy to use , on the recording end anyway , after , the transfer setup is a bit involved but under 300 for 8 tracks and a 40 gb drive , and the inputs are fairly clean , The Zoom , Preamps are a little noisy , unless you have Hot mics. I think they tried to put too much stuff into it . But for an Idea catcher , Ambient sounds, etc or Loud stuff ( Then you can use the limiter and forget about noise) By the way , I went out today and Bought the Fancy remote for the RH1 , There are extra menu funtions in it and the scrolling , OH God the SCroollling , ( wait , didnt they say that at the Apple iPhone release,....sorry )

I couldnt download or play them ???????????? I love bluegrass

As I said , it was recorded on an MZ-B10 , with its built in mic , I was kicking myself , and yelling at my kid for not telling me it was going to be a BIG production ( He was in the Group singing ) AGGGHHHH , and he didnt tell me to bring any gear What kind of Internet connect are you on. I am on kind of a fast setup ( swap sound files?) and I am on a Macbook .I have XP loaded on Parrallels Desktop , but I keep it hedged , it doesnt connect to the net , doesnt update, or get Viruses. I drag whatever I want to do in windows from the Mac into XP , never from the net . If you look at the pics above the file youll see the B10 sitting in a chair , so a wall of Bodies around it , and all the way at the back of the room. I shouldve taken a Tall monopod , with the AT 822 mounted on it , and the RH1 , wasnt thinking .

:acute: :lol: Too funny man , I worked for Guitar center in SF a looooong time ago

Yes it is a field recorder , But for a great many other uses , since it acts as a Hard drive , it is just drag and drop , no software interface needed, The files are mp3(at any bit rate) and Wav (at several quality choices) which means for people who dont have an RH1 you can record your MD this and upload as a Wav , Or MP3 whatever you choose( Time consuming but....) The files are also immediately compatable with any Sound editing program , or Multitrack Program , Drag and drop. it is fairly easy to use, I wish it used AA's instead of Lithium , but I have an external USB power pack. The Difference between the R-09 (Edirol) and the Microtrack is the built in mics on the Edirol and it uses AA batts.the Mics sound pretty good , but if you want to use Good mics , well your sorta stuck. The Microtrack will use (In the 1/4 inputs) any AT mic , Most Sennheisers, BeyerDynamic , Blue , as long as the Phantom power rating is 11-52 ( meaning it will accept a lower voltage) The MD requires a seperate preamp to run any of those types of mics ,as does the R-09 And the difference is very clear , Good mics ( I have used too many to count) make ALL the difference, coupled with good pre's and your machine WHATEVER it is ,takes on a whole new personality Ease of use ,: first I go into menus , select REC settings (file type, quality , monitor, Preamp gain , Stereo or mono, etc ) exit that and just leave it. when I go to record , I hit ONE button , active Rec Levels right on front ( Linkable so you only have to use one) file number is created and your recording, so that is pretty easy . Advanced features you explore a little , to reset the file count ,you format the card. Pretty basic. Also , you can use HUGE capacity media , 10 gb card No prob ,throw it in, both MicroDrives and CF are recocnized. My MD will never get " Replaced" it is my everyday machine, but for more detail and clarity I break out The Microtrack. I could run a pair of AKG C3000 mics direct to the MicroTrack ..... AT 3032's ......... Shure SM81 's (OH Yeah) That is how it would affect you , and as far as Apples and Oranges , yes a little of that going on, but I like my Apples sliced thin mixed with Orange chunks , and a can of Peaches dumped on top w/ Cinammon and Ice Cream .

Patience is a Virtue..... Thx for waitin! How long did it take? And buy the way , scroll back up to the Post with the pics , I posted the MP3 . "Search for Tommorrow" at the bottom of the post I used "SoundRecorder " for Mac OSX , it is a lot like the sound recorder in windows, but it records in QUICK Time .mov format ( wierd huh!) It is very clean neat little prog , no editing or anything . simple as eatin an ice cream cone. On the tool bar select "File" on the drop down Select "Sound Settings" and a window opens the lets you set rec level , and whether to monitor the signal or not , plus you can select whaevr soundcard , or input is available on your computer. The monitoring doesnt have any latency hardly at all, I was impressed with that feature alone, Audacity doesnt monitor all that well. After I recorded , I imported to " Switch" a prog from NCH ( available for Window to I think ) another freebie, it converts anything to anything almost . Also I put up two versions one for a slower connection

Interesting , He has the R-09 now , and he is willing the let go of the RH-1 , I have used my RH1 , maybe 10 times since I bought it . I keep going back to my older machines as well. For general everyday use anyway.

By "Curved " I thik you mean "bent" , and as for "cap " I am not sure what you mean post a picture if you can.

hey Green , Most of the "Plug in Power " mics are made for 1.5-3.2 volts DC . Take a Stereo cable . plug into the MD of your choice (Mic input) and take a multi meter , measure the voltage on the left and right , Then set it to measure milliampere. Tell me what you get ( I have had this discussion with M-Audio Engineers,) , Yes if you Built your own mics , wired directly to the M-Audio the mics would work ok. I took the Mic that came with it apart to see if it was Capacitor coupled , NADA, nothing , just a pair of capsules wired directkt to a Plug. The plug in Power mics most have a small circuit (capacitors , and a diode , or similar ) , That connection difference cuases a problem. I did a test and sent the results TO M-Audio , they now Tell you NOT to use the AT-822 on the 1/8 input AND DO NOT use the Phantom Power on the 1/4 input with the AT -822. The Battery powered , or circuit containing Plug in Power mics do not work well with the Microtrack I have The ECM-909A, The AT-822 , several smaller AT's an Aiwa Desktop stereo mic, and about 5 other no namers that all work quite well with the MD , Plug them into the Microtrack , and it ruined 1 of them (The Aiwa) and the others all sounded like crap. The AT -822 was worthless on the 1/8 input . if you have a chance go to a store and test a Microtrack , the 1/8 input sucks ( their included mic was Ok but nothing to write home about, But when I ran the Balanced inputs using proper cables , with moderate mics, it was a very different story. Just try it.

Are you aware of the unit being dropped or sat on , or hit somehow recently?

I am content to just RAID the fridge , ,,,,,,,,,,,,..........Honey can I have a BEER

I still listen to LP's , .. Introduced a young Japanese kid (19 Years old) to LP for the firs time today , He came over to help with the House rebuilding project , he looked at my records and said ....I kid you not " What are those?" so I put on the Original Sade " Diamond Life " Pristine condition, he listen to three songs , and asked to make copies of everything I had , it was toooo funny His Exact words ..." The Bass is clear , and warm , my CD's dont sound like that" , man I was rollin in the floor.

The Micro Track has two types of inputs , It has a 1/8 stereo input for Mics , but the problem (Where the complaints come from) is the 1/8 plug has a 5 volt output which is too much power for most small stereo mics . Because of that They dont sound good at all, it lowers their output drastically so you have to increase the gain to a ridiculus amount and therefore introduce noise. The 1/4 inch ins are TRS Balanced inputs , And there is a Digital preamp for those inputs , and they are VERY clean , Almost TOO clean I had the mics over a half a meter away from my Acoustic , and was pegging the meters with just finger picking, Not using a pick. I appreciate what your saying , and the variables were taken into consideration for my own personal hearing ( what I am looking for out of the unit. The MD has a Mic input , and the associated mic was a Sony product designed specifically for the Input , The ECM 909a although a little older was made for use with DAT and MD . I also have an AT 822 ( Audio Technica) but it is a MUCH nicer mic than what I plugged into the MicroTrack. The mics I plugged into the Microtrack were off the shelf bargain buy at Best Buy or Circuit Silly (city) not Pro mics. The comparison was a fair one , I got a lot of work done on the Floor of the house today , and have a few more Floor panels to get in before I do the Tiles , once that is done , I will sit down with My guitar and record some samples, convince the powers that be to provide a box for me to upload to and I will load the original and not converted, Again the 1/4 inputs with TRS cables , and the 27db boost in , suprised me quite thouroghly , I had been using it unbalanced , when put to its proper use , There is no noise. And the Sound was FAT , Big and Fat , I was very suprised. Hey King .....You said a Mouthfull. AMEN That is part of it , But there are a lot of companies that are for the musician and NOT for the Studio Industry , Tascam is one of them , Most of the employees including the owner are Musicians, and the get it. But the know they gotta make money and the Game is what it is. I have been a working Musician ( What an oxymoron huh) for 20 + years and have seen the crap that a lot of musicians have had to go through to "make it ".......... I dont call that Making It . you lose your soul At the botttom the mention that the "Incompatable Phantom power of the Micro track " wouldnt let the mics perform well. also they set at maximum gain ( which when use WITHOUT the 27 db Digital Boost will bring noise) Measurement conditions: Recording format: 44.1 KHz, 16 bit, mono (left channel). All parameters were measured at the maximum available gain setting. Limiter and noise cancel options were disabled. Note that a bit-depth of 24 bit would not improve the noise level figures at these high gain settings. When available, the figures in brackets indicate the manufacturer's specifications. Then they state that the 24 bit setting would not help . They listed the MicroTrack at 58 db noise floor which is pure BS. What I heard in my recording was at least 86 db ( at the very minimum) I can Identify most rooms by the recording and am a studio qualified recording engineer , I know what I hear . The fact that they use incompatable mics with the microtrack immediately sets it to Biased level. The MIcrotrack is way quiter than the Marantz 660 , I have heard them both , in real world conditions. the marantz is nice ... BUT ( there is that word again) Put a Matched pair of AT 3032 mics w/ TRS Balanced cables on the MicroTrack set at MEDIUM gain , and engage the 27 db pre, , Man you would want for naught

No it a small MO drive disc , got my SCSI ready , oh wait , My comp doesnt have SCSI ,DAMN!

Alll of the above, Yes I will post some samples , but not this week , I got a butload of house repair , and instrument repair, So I break every hour or so , and sit down on the forums to just read , This is one of the best forums I have seen , and some actual intelligent conversation going. The Micro Track was set at a LOW rec setting, Levels and mic pre High , but quality LOW, The MD were set at HIGH quality (for the early models) and average quality for the RH1 The Mics that were selected were of aproximate equality with the exeption of the ECM -23F3, it is a nice mic Good Mic preamps will make the difference in ANY machine, A mic preamp has the dubious job of bringing a very small signal up to a much larger signal, so #1 if there is any noise in the preamp it WILL also be amplified, If there is noise in the MIC ,It will be amplified. So you have TWO noise sources combined, .......that makes the job difficult , and is the reason that GOOD mic pre's cost Good money . To get All Discrete A/D conversion adds another conundrum. Here is were Sony made a HUGE mistake ( and I will post a disertation on just this subject) They made a 4Track recorder a few years back , the timing of it was quite good and they could have completely with that one machine , made MD the most popular format on the planet. But......( i hate that word) They made it to use an unpopular format , MD DATA , dumb move. Reallly Stupid , on a scale of 1-10 that was an 11. The recorder itself was very nice , Had they made it to use regular MD , or even prepared it for the HIMD ( that would be soooooo cool) it would have , and Almost every working musician I know say the same thing, It would have wiped out the Tape Deck 4track machines , and had a HUGE running start on the Harddrive based Machines that are out now, As you mentioned the BR Micro 4Track , is out now and uses SD cards (Flash memory) The Sony 4track would STILL be more pupoluar , because of having a Widely Available media MD. But they missed the target , absolutely did not pay attention to the NEED , instead the just put something there to take part in what was going on. . Which is where the crux of this debate goes , What exactly is ( In the eyes of the WORKING media field) What is the NEED . Then Does MD actually fill that NEED . Amatuer Musicians are more populace now than at any point in the history of the world, If you have a computer , you can make your own CD . That makes it difficult for the recording industry , And the Majority of Musicians do NOT feel like paying Industry Money or Industry having control over their stuff. So the Manufacturers see,....a NEED , now the race to fill it begins, Every Imaginable gadjet with the ability to capture sound (both good and bad quality ) jumps in the ring. That is a LOT of money . Where is Sony in that ring ? MD For that matter ? The HHB was mentioned , Not Sony , HHB which is an awesome recorder by the way , way better than the Microtrack. And way more money . Again Had Sony at that time, Made a Decent , not even PRO , just Decent quality 4Track that used Standard MD , they would have saved their buts. Put GOOD mic Preamps , simple 3 band EQ , 1 effect loop( send and stereo return).The would have established themselves with the musician market , and solidly at that. That is what they NEED to do right now, and quickly , Release a REALLY good 4track , Nice mic preamps , simple easy to operate, using HIMD and Standard MD format , with a USB connect , and record in a MP3 format instead of ATRAC , and they could plant a good foot in the door. That is what TAscam has ALREADY done . 8 Tracks , Very simple menu , HDD based (40GB) under 300 dollars. http://www.tascam.com/Products/dp01.html 1996 this is what Tascam did http://www.minidisc.org/mix_tascam.html This is what Sony should have done , 4 /5 years ago , when the HIMD format became available

"an OLD person's "sex" drive has a better life span that MD units;; i would put my money on "old Ppl". ROTFLMAO ,,,,, awww man , that was funny. My MZ-R50 might take offense to that though.

I'll agree with that point , but that is the reason for the Flashed based recorders , Like Fostex's new rig , Or the MicroTrack 24/96( I have one) These use MicroDrives and CF cards , 2gigs 8gigs 10 gigs whatever size you want, Recording in MP3 128kbs, 44.1 sample rate on a 1 gig CF card , I have over 17 hours of recording time , file breaks, markers etc. That is a full day in Irag , There is your news story , and the full uncut article for the News company you work for to cut copy and paste all on one disc. MD wont do that . The Mic Pre's in the Micro track ,(if you use the TRS intsead of unbalanced) are pristine and supply 30volts of Phantom Power , which means you can use any mic you want. No moving parts , nothing to break , ....An MD in the Dust of Iraq, ( I have two freinds there now) with the heat levels , Your batt life dies forget the internal bat . also the dust and dirt particles corrupt the mechanisims horribly unless you keep it fully cased and covered at all times. Md is Consumer /Audiofile gear , amatuer musicians , etc , In the general field (Reporting etc ) in more congenial enviornments ,Yes MD is used quite a bit , but places like Iraq . Not a good place for MD

Your thinking something like this? http://www.hhb.co.uk/hhb/usa/hhbproducts/portadisc/index.asp

The cable on the RH1 is a Standard Usb-USB "B " type so it should work ,,,, do you have the Ferrite coils to snap on the Cable?