vapor matt Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 ok everyone in the know! which headphones are the best for my M/D MZ N710 I would also like an idea of the price so its no good recomending h/phones that cost serious money, iam looking at maybe £60 or $100 worth maximum so guys whats the best sounding in my price range! and if i dont have to spend that much to get good sounding H/phones please let me know. any links or reviews welcome. thanks matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_barbier Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hi, welcome to the forum! First off I suggest reading as many reviews as possible, and listening to as many models as possible. If I were you, I'd look at the Shure E2Cs, those are some very tough 'phones to beat, and for the price you can get them (less than 70.00 online,) I'd give them a serious consideration! gl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_barbier Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Also check out the Sticky on this forum on headphones... a lot of good information there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor matt Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 thanks guys! i didnt know there was a h/phone forum as such. cool though iam doing some reading now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 vapor you in the uk? did you buy that n710 in the uk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 if he did he's going to need either a portable amp or some very efficiend earphones *coughshuree3ccough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor matt Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi, and yes i did buy it here in the uk! whats wrong with a UK one then? are they diffrent in some way, and if so how would i know or tell the diffrence? aeriyn! if he did he's going to need either a portable amp or some very efficiend earphones *coughshuree3ccough* LOL this sounds like ive bought me a dud! let me guess it has a volume control that starts from very quiet and excels to quiet on full volume. or aeriyn could it be your parcialy deaf from to many a year blowing out your ear drums, nah can see that in such a pretty girl, so ive bought a dud. just my luck eh! so why did the uk get the duff ones then? come on guys there must be something good about it :smile: cheer me up here :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 euro delivered n710s have a crippled amp that is significantly weaker than standard. this means some headphones may have problems being driven by it. aeiryn knows far more than me so i'll leave the rest to her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor matt Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 so the amp output is lower on the europe versions. is the amp output controlled by hardware or firmware. do they work like m/boards and GFX cards/ mobile phones, where you can flash the firmware which can result in voltage changes so the amp might produce full out put? or is there a hardware mod like a volt mod you can do to the unit. bit like i do to GFX and M/boards now. I flash mobile phones, GFX cards all kinds so maybe its posible without hardware mods. or aeiryn? big smile here :grin: what would you recomend as H/phones to help the problem if it cant be modified or flashed to improve sound output. if i was to say buy another unit, what would you recomend to replace the n710 as it does everything i really need other than blow your ears off! also if all european models are govened by the same stupid laws about output from a portable device would i need to purchase one over the pond in the us or can you buy impotted M/d players here in the uk somewhere. Iam surprised about the output, just my luck i guess but it could be worse at least its not the end of the world yet! :smile: thanks for any advice guys! what do you think of the MZNHF800 any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Well, what I recommend you do is either purchase a US or Japanese model MD unit which doesn't suffer from the limited output power. MD units already have very low output power compared to most digital audio players, so either way, you're still going to need efficient headphones or earphones.Conversely, if you like your unit and don't want to get rid of it nor buy a new one, you can purchase or build a small DIY headphone amplifier that runs on 9V batteries and fits in an Altoids tin. The quality of said amp will be dependent on the money you spend on it. I can build a CMoy of reasonable quality as well as the MINT amp, with the CMoy costing about ~50 USD and the MINT around ~90 USD. The sound quality of that particular MD headphone output will be greatly improved by the addition of an amp. Check out http://www.head-fi.org Amplification Forum for more information about portable amps if you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor matt Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 thanks for the advice aeriyn! very helpfull, would i be better buying a NH1as ive been considering a HMD. is it true they are not capped in there output like other european models. i wana make sure before i buy one. thanks very muchmatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Tires Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 thanks for the advice aeriyn! very helpfull, would i be better buying a NH1as ive been considering a HMD. is it true they are not capped in there output like other european models. i wana make sure before i buy one. thanks very muchmatt←The NH1 is not Eurocapped. You can use just about any portable headphone with it and be satisfied. A headphone amp will benefit any MD player though, even an NH1. As for headphones, Aeriyn's recommendation of Shure brand phones is a good one, the e2c model is a real bargain and I like it with my MD gear. I'd also suggest Sony brand phones too, the MDR-E888SP, MDR-G74SL, MDR-D66SL, and MDR-V6 are good earphone/headphones that can be had for under $100 USD. Read the headphone and portable forums at Head-Fi.org. The folks there discuss headphones all day long.*-I've used all the phones I've recommended except for the MDR-D66SL and the MDR-E888SP, in that case I've used their older counterpart the MDR-E868LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor matt Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 well thanks again for the advice nismo96. and i think i may have found a nice little amp to help with the 710 volume issue.http://www.boostaroo.com/so might give one of these a go with the 710 before buying a NH1, just incase sony release something new in the next few months and the NH1 takes a dive price wize i may aswell wait a few months just incase.what do you think of this little amp. compact enough and with some nice sanyo rechargable's should keep up with the 710 charge wizecheers! and thanks again!matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Tires Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 The Boostaroo is a very bad headphone amp according to everyone I've ever heard from. It's really cheap though, so you might want to give it a try and make your own decision on it's quality. Dr. Xin, a well regard amp maker, makes a model of headphone amp called the Supermini that might work well for you. You can get more info on it at http://www.fixup.net in order to see if you'd be willing to check it out for yourself. As Aeriyn said earlier, making your amp would be very nice if you've got the skill, alas I don't so I'm stuck with commercial models myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 If you've got the cash, get the supermini. It's compact, looks nice and sounds very good.If you have even more money... get the Supermacro. It's compact, looks very nice and sounds better than my PIMETA, especially with the AD8620 opamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Tires Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Aeriyn, have you heard the Supermacro yourself yet? Do you own one? If so, is yours upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeriyn Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Aeriyn, have you heard the Supermacro yourself yet? Do you own one? If so, is yours upgraded.←I've listened to a maxed out Supermacro (with AD8620, impedance switches, xinfeed, everything) and I'll definitely say that it's better than my old PIMETA (OPA2227/227, 4x 470uF Pana FC on the rails, RCA 1% metal films unmatched, pana evj pot) and probably still slightly better (subjective) to my current amp (PIMETA with AD8620/8610, 4x Elna Cerafine 470uF audio grade rail caps, ALPS RK27 pot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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