tribalwind Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Hi' first i'd like to apologize for the most-likely unecessary new thread as im sure this has been discussed to near-death, i've done quite a lot of reading/searching here(great site!) but am simply overwhelmed and alot seems to discuss recording from within the audience moreso, as opposed to "on stage" and mainly loud/rock as far as bands...anyhow, i play and craft various styles of wood and bamboo flute.east-indian,native-american,celtic,japanese,persian and so on, im waiting for my mz-nh900 to arrive which i purchased from another member here.id like to know what mic(s) i should look at that woud give me the best performance for mostly quite environments(think yoga studios,dojos,beach,forest) i also play with others often and so would like to know how best to mic/record a group of say 3 to 6 players, plus audience during "kirtan" (hindu call/response devotional singing) which actually can get pretty loud and dynamic when the tempo speeds up! would it sound good if i split the channels ,1 direct from the PA and one from mono mic?is it possible to put multiple mics on 1 channel with some sort of splitter box?can someone comment on those $25 sound-professional mics ive heard of here? i would get 1 as an extra/practice-pic for recording during lunch in my car etc. i also record my own background environment sounds(tape deck!) so thats another consideration i have~ my budget's flexible,some recording will be for CD so quality and 'pureness' is important to me. i have a few older mp3 samples on my site where you can hear the style/type of sound im getting,thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 If you're recording acoustic instruments, I would forego the amp altogether. You will get a much better recording by arranging the performers around a stereo microphone.is it possible to put multiple mics on 1 channel with some sort of splitter box?iSure it is. They're called mixers.If you're stuck because you use the PA to amplify the instruments during a performance, it would probably be best to try doing the best mix possible with the PA and feeding that straight to the recorder. That's assuming the PA has a built-in mixer of even reasonable quality. [Notably: common amp/mixers like the Peavey XR series have absolutely dismal mic preamps, huge problems with hum pickup, &c.]Otherwise, noting that you say it's in a quiet environment, a totally acoustic recording will pretty much always sound better.For your needs I might consider starting with the Sound Professionals "copy" of the Sony ECM MS907 [see http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/...em/SP-ECM-MS907]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalwind Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 thank you dex. man you guys are quick'in very small rooms we forego the amp, anything over 25 people or in larger spaces we use a portable 4/5channel amp ,this is what i have, http://www.kustom.com/products/profile/pro...system_one1.aspyou're absolutely right,i really should pick up a small mixer.i often play with an alesis reverb unit and i think putting that through a mixer would be eaiser to control it. ill look around at some simple models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 thank you dex. man you guys are quick'in very small rooms we forego the amp, anything over 25 people or in larger spaces we use a portable 4/5channel amp ,this is what i have, http://www.kustom.com/products/profile/pro...system_one1.aspyou're absolutely right,i really should pick up a small mixer.i often play with an alesis reverb unit and i think putting that through a mixer would be eaiser to control it. ill look around at some simple models.←I'd still recommend going totally acoustic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corien Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 i have a few older mp3 samples on my site where you can hear the style/type of sound im getting,←Hello! Do you know something? I like your music! Thanks for sharing it! Are you aware that track 11 (Bansuri in D) is sampled only at 20 kbps and 11 kHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalwind Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 (edited) I'd still recommend going totally acoustic.←the problems we have are that people in the back of the room have trouble hearing everyone, and the flutes and singers get drowned out by hand drums and harmonium. we only mic when needed.when i play solo i only mic wheni want alot of reverb.otherwise its not needed.places with natural acoustics are of course exquisite to play in,(like the quicktime clip of the beach tunnel) --Hello! Do you know something? I like your music! Thanks for sharing it! Are you aware that track 11 (Bansuri in D) is sampled only at 20 kbps and 11 kHz?←hey thanks! glad you liked it. it was all done directly to PC(using cool edit pro) with a junky $5 clip-on radioshack mic. track 11 i must've left the wrong file linked.that file was supposed to be a 56k'er friendly version. i want to stream all new tracks,,1-step at a time i guess....hey another OT question, is thre a quicktime MOV-editor program for PC?that i could clean up the audio with in mov vids.? nevermind i found a few:) Edited January 18, 2005 by tribalwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corien Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 hey thanks! glad you liked it. it was all done directly to PC(using cool edit pro) with a junky $5 clip-on radioshack mic. track 11 i must've left the wrong file linked.that file was supposed to be a 56k'er friendly version. ←You're welcome, you deserve it. Would it be possible to upload a 128k version of that track? I would like to put your music on a MD and listen to it to relax. i want to stream all new tracks,,1-step at a time i guess....←Please let me know when you upload them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalwind Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Anyone have this mic? sound professionals SP-PSM-4was thinking that switchable omni/cardioid pattern could come in handy sometimes. theres another switchable for about 2x the $ alsohttp://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/...specifications#p.s to corien, i cant find my original Bansuri recording but i will make many new ones now that i have my MD waiting to be unpackaged at home now UPS just confirmed;) Edited January 21, 2005 by tribalwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corien Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 p.s to corien, i cant find my original Bansuri recording but i will make many new ones now that i have my MD waiting to be unpackaged at home now UPS just confirmed;)←That's fine tribalwind! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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