ak_47 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) I've been reading loads of posts about this an have tried all the things that's been suggested, Sorry that i'm posting ANOTHER sonic p.c crashing thread, but you guys are my last hope. Windows XPRAM 256 DDR P4 2.6 SP2So i have deleted the registry keys etc and uninstalled all the Open MG files etc, re-installed, the latest version of Sonic, and i still keep getting bombed out the p.c I have tried alsorts, last night i even considered a format, but i can't put my self through that again, i'd rather listen to " the chuckle brothers live in dublin " for the rest of my life than do that. Any way, can any one that can be bothered, please help ! It locks up in realplayer 10, and of course sonic, i can try and transfer the odd song that some times seems to go but that's about it, when i try an album it's a locker! locks up.! Thanks people Oh and hi my names AK_47 nice to be here ! Edited January 30, 2005 by ak_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Hello ak_47, it sounds like a problem I had. Have you read this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak_47 Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) hey man how can i thank you ! I deleted that ffdshow what ever it is, im sure i'll need it later on some time man, but hey it workds, not a single hang or crash, how on earth......... an way you have just made some one very very happy and released a load of pressure, since i've been trying to get this to work for just under 24hr's now, been asleep a little and then back on it. you know what's it like when you get a new toy.Once again man thank you soo sooo much ! What was ffdshow for ?????? Edited January 30, 2005 by ak_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Great work, bug80. Welcome to the forums, ak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowMD Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Instead of ffdshow, try the Kazaa Lite Codec Packhttp://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) hey man how can i thank you ! I deleted that ffdshow what ever it is, im sure i'll need it later on some time man, but hey it workds, not a single hang or crash, how on earth......... an way you have just made some one very very happy and released a load of pressure, since i've been trying to get this to work for just under 24hr's now, been asleep a little and then back on it. you know what's it like when you get a new toy.Once again man thank you soo sooo much ! What was ffdshow for ??????←Hey, I'm glad I could help you out!ffdshow is a so-called codec pack. Most people install codec packs on their PC's when they want to watch movies in "exotic" formats like DivX or XviD. The programmers of ffdshow thought it was a nice idea to add audio codecs to the package. The reason behind that decision is unclear. ffdshow has some "extra" audio features, like EQ, reverb and convolution, but those are switched off by default (so, why don't they disable the complete audiocodecs by default?). Anyway, SonicStage has a problem with those codecs. A complete uninstall of ffdshow is not necessary, it's enough to disable the audio codecs and leave the video codecs as is. I'll try the Kazaa codecs mentioned by LowMD.Once again, I'm glad I could help! I'm sure more people have the "ffdshow issue", so there should be a sticky topic about this, I guess. Edited January 30, 2005 by bug80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 FFDSHOW is a video for windows [vfw] filter for several video codec formats. Technically speaking, it should not affect audio codecs in any way, since it doesn't install or for that matter include any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 FFDSHOW is a video for windows [vfw] filter for several video codec formats. Technically speaking, it should not affect audio codecs in any way, since it doesn't install or for that matter include any.←That's the problem. It does include audiocodecs. But, as I mentioned above, I don't understand why, because by default they aren't doing anything, except intercepting your audiostreams and confusing SonicStage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I digress.I installed the most recent version of FFDSHOW last night and it didn't install or alter any audio codecs at all. It does install filters for several formats, but as far as I can tell these should only be active when it's decoding video.In any case, my default FHG codec is what gets used for MP3s most of the time; the players I use tend to have their own decoders such as libmad built-in.I don't understand where the conflict comes in, but I do understand that I'm not experiencing it, and neither was I experiencing it before [with FFDSHOW installed then as well].Mystery..edit:a-HA! I'm a bloddy liar am I, I am!Removed FFDSHOW and reinstalled. It does have filters for AC3, DTS, mpeg audio, AAC, &c. - and I did let it do what it wanted with all of them. And I still don't have problems because of it.This doesn't get us any closer to the reasons why, but it does prove that I'm occasionally completely full of sh*t.edit #2:After spending an hour or two messing with codecs/filters..FFDSHOW, by default, will override the decoding of most audio and video formats thrown at directshow players. [Ostensibly, the reason I dl'd it was to enable using mpeg4 video files in video editing applications that otherwise wouldn't recognise their 4cc codes, but that at least still doesn't work]..The interesting thing about FFDSHOW is that it lets you override anything you want with it. It puts icons for its video and audio control panels in the start menu.If you go into the audio filters and tell FFDSHOW to be 'disabled' for a particular format, it will simply pass it to the next filter that directshow would otherwise use.For instance: I have PowerDVD installed, and with it the Cyberlink AC3 filter [which is nice in that it has software Prologic II decoding, which means I can properly set the balance in my rear speakers, since the speakers/amp I have don't permit this.]After installing FFDSHOW it overrides the Cyberlink filter. However, by going in and selecting "disabled" beside a52/ac3 in its options, then closing/re-opening the player, it's back to using Cyberlink again.The same goes for mp3 decoding - disable it in the FFDSHOW dialogue and it goes to the next filter that the system would otherwise use, in my case, the FhG filter.The problem with FFDSHOW's mp3 filter? It's also using libmad, and is putting out 32- or 24-bit audio by default. This is probably what is screwing up SS. It's possible that by limiting its output [by going into the FFDSHOW audio config, scrolling down to "input/output" and unchecking all options but 16-bit integer] the whole issue with SS losing audio from mp3s might be fixed. I'll try this out tomorrow if someone reminds me.In the end I've left FFDSHOW on my machine for the simple reason that it lets me control what codecs get used, rather than letting the system decide. Another example here: I have the Koepi 1.1.0-beta1 XviD codec installed on my system, and it's told to decode XviD video. However - The Intervideo MPEG-4 filter installed by WinDVD overrides this, and there's no way to shut it off without uninstalling WinDVD. FFDSHOW, on the other hand, overrides the Intervideo filter, and also lets me manually choose the XviD 1.x filter I have installed instead. [Lesson learned: the intervideo filters are EEEEEEEEVIL, since they don't give you any options, don't let you override them, and don't show up as system codecs in any of the normal places]Yes, a great tangle.In the end - FFDSHOW gives you control over what codecs get used. The thing is, you have to want to have that control, and to have some idea of what to do with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak_47 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) what ever it does, it did have an effect on me being able to transfer music to the mini disk, i probably shouldn't have deleted it but i was so pi**ed at the whole thing and the fact that i sat infront of this dam machine for nearly 24 hrs, just wanting abit of chemical brothers on my new mini disk. So once again thanks for all the help. Can i ask one more question ?? ( not sure if i should create a new thread ?? )When i seem to transfer a few albums, some times when i play them back i get a " warble " like as though the speeds going up and down, and that the only way i can sort of explain this??? delete more codecs from my machine ?Hey and thanks for the welcome it's nice to be here ! Edited January 31, 2005 by ak_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 what ever it does, it did have an effect on me being able to transfer music to the mini disk, i probably shouldn't have deleted it but i was so pi**ed at the whole thing and the fact that i sat infront of this dam machine for nearly 24 hrs, just wanting abit of chemical brothers on my new mini disk. So once again thanks for all the help. Can i ask one more question ?? ( not sure if i should create a new thread ?? )When i seem to transfer a few albums, some times when i play them back i get a " warble " like as though the speeds going up and down, and that the only way i can sort of explain this??? delete more codecs from my machine ?Hey and thanks for the welcome it's nice to be here !←I disagree now.. having figured out what the problem possibly is, you were right to blow it away. If you want to learn how to mess with codecs/filters, reinstall it and mess around a bit. FFDSHOW is forgiving in that you can go in and reset things to the way they were. On the other hand, there are a crapload of controls there to play with, so if you're unsure of yourself - just leave things as they are. That old addage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," comes to mind.re: warbling - no idea. Does it play the same way through SS as on a minidisc? Perhaps [if SS is playing the mp3 from the library as it normally does with imported files] the mp3 codec you have installed is also already broken in some way. Weirdness: I'll try the FFDSHOW mp3 codec with it limited to 16 bit tomorrow. In the end, what caused your first problem might end up fixing the one you have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak_47 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 warbling, it does it some times when i have recorded 2 or 3 albums and i listen to it just from the mini disk.! Oh well i'll try a fresh install of the tunes that i'm having a problem with and see if it sorts it's self out.Once again thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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