1kyle Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) OK it's real time -- but you can get some real great music from DVD sound tracks (I love Feuer Feuer for example in the opening set from the movie XXX with Van Diesel).No DRM either and it's great on Minidisc. To get round any DRM --the UK stuff seems to be the worst on this1) Use Dolby 3.2 / 2.0 sound on the DVD -- DTS can sometimes give problems2) Use if poss a cheap "Supermarket DVD" player --these are the best for avoiding DRM. Output the optical OUT / SPDIF of the DVD player into the "Optical IN" on your DTS / Dolby decoder.3) Output the Digital OUT into the Optical IN on your Minidisc. unit. The high end gear usually have the DRM stuff locked tight whereas the cheap stuff from China etc is much more lax on this.You don't lose any quality -- the optical is a "Pass thru" -- but the cheap DVD player strips the DRM stuff off.I'm using a CROWN DVD player (Tesco 29.90 GBP !!!! works great).You've still got restrictions with Digital transfer to the computer but if you have got time instead of optical to the minidisc connect to the optical input of your computer soundcard and burn a CD --and then rip it -- although the prob with that is you can only get up to 80 Mins on a "Normal" CD and the DVD soundtrack might be longer --but you can split it. Note if you are using Nero you don't actually have to burn a physical CD -- use the DRIVE IMAGE software included to mount a "Virtual CD" , burn it and then don't forget to "Unmount" it again.Have fun Cheers-K Edited June 12, 2005 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug80 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Another option is using a program like dvd decrypter (which is unfortunately discontinued, but I'm sure there will be some download mirrors left). With that program, you can rip the audio from the DVD to WAV, for example. From there you can use Sonicstage to transfer the audio over to your (Hi-)MD. Great for music DVD's.This story only holds if you got a DVD drive, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_hit Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Sounds interesting. Does Hi-MD suport anything besides 2.0 stereo? I think that this might come in handy if it suported 5.1 DD. If you paw through a copy of TigerDirect's mag they have 5.1 headphones. I would LOVE to have a portable copy of NIN- "With Teath" in 5.1 or NIN- "The Downward Spiral" in 5.1 (I have the DualDisc versions of both albums) or better yet BOTH on one Hi-MD. If anyone from Sony is reading this, think about adding 5.1 to Hi-MD. That would rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted June 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) Sounds interesting. Does Hi-MD suport anything besides 2.0 stereo? I think that this might come in handy if it suported 5.1 DD. If you paw through a copy of TigerDirect's mag they have 5.1 headphones. I would LOVE to have a portable copy of NIN- "With Teath" in 5.1 or NIN- "The Downward Spiral" in 5.1 (I have the DualDisc versions of both albums) or better yet BOTH on one Hi-MD. If anyone from Sony is reading this, think about adding 5.1 to Hi-MD. That would rock.←The problem of course is in the Dolby encoding --- unless the minidisc recorder has a built in decoder (which it doesn't) you are not going to be able to get true 5.1 -- however strangely enough an analog out into a decoder might actually do the trick -- same with PCM into the optical input of a 5.1 decoder--- I'll have a go with this later and post the results.I think the Sony hardware just ignores the dolby signal --doesn't actually throw it away whereas DTS either has some more DRM "Bovine Scatology" / crud in it or just mucks the audio signal up.If your set of Cans has an inbuilt decoder you might actually get some interesting results.I think DTS won't work -- not sure why -- I can't even get an anlog signal out over a "Video Sender" -- I've tried doing this when I want to watch a DVD on another TV away from the DVD machine. The Dolby 5.1 out (3.2) works however. Anyway you've raised some interesting stuff to try.BTW you can get decent 5.1 / 3.2 from analog out as the dolby sound is usually embedded in the standard audio output and ignored by normal "stereo" amplifiers.For example --- if you have an old SKY TV digibox that doesn't have an optical out you still can get decent dolby surround sound by feeding in the audio signal into your dolby surround decoder which reports when a true 3.2 sound is being transmitted.Those with SKY TV --try it next time a 5.1 film is being transmitted. They have the 5.1 signal carried via the normal Audio out.The funny thing with this is for a while SONY itself did have a few compatable SKY digiboxes which actually had an Optical Out --these were quite rare and now discontinued --I don't actually know who makes SKY digiboxes now with an optical output --not talking about the SKY + Hard disc system --another story.BTW Thanks guys for DVD-decrypter --managed to find a mirror before the "Internet Gestapo" shut it down --great program.Cheers-K Edited June 12, 2005 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananatree Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 5.1 MD is something we can only hope for in the future of HiMD, although a backwards compatible recorder doesn't seem too hard to create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_hit Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I think that if the sony DVD handicam can record in realtime 5.1, It seems like Sony could actually create a nice Hi-MD unit with built in mic and multi line inputs (1 for FL/FR, 2 for RL/RR and 3 for CEN/SUB) and special sets of 5.1 headphones using a connector more like the remote interface (or even USB) for a more compact plug design. Connect it to the computer and then upload tracks to burn onto audio DVDs or listen to on computer 5.1 systems. Yeah... I like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGB2 Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 My MDS-JB920 deck will not accept digital audio from my Playstation 2 with a DVD movie, but I can play the same movie on a proper DVD player and record the same audio digitally! Pity you can't do that with the evil 'Copy protected' CDs (which you can burn on a computer anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kyle Posted June 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 (edited) My MDS-JB920 deck will not accept digital audio from my Playstation 2 with a DVD movie, but I can play the same movie on a proper DVD player and record the same audio digitally! Pity you can't do that with the evil 'Copy protected' CDs (which you can burn on a computer anyway..... ←As I posted above -- some DVD players will just pass the optical stuff through where you can then record digitally without DRM crap to your hearts content.BTW if people boycotted ALL copy protected CD's (actually legally can't be called CD's at all as copy protection is not in the Philips patented CD spec) then these abominations would soon disappear.Whats the point of buying music legally if you can't play it where YOU want to or can't play it on a computer which is where a lot of people want to play it.I'm using a MDSJB980 --still a GREAT piece of gear and with no decent high end HI-MD units appearing this will still do me -- LP2 is 99% good enough for most applications and the optical in / out is great.Cheers-K Edited June 14, 2005 by 1kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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