Beethovenian Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Razor, the noise from rubbing clothes can be reduced by attaching the cord with a clip or keeping it as tight as possible, and its perception will vary from person to person and depending on the music. But microphonics do exist. Think of how you feel when using earplugs or just holding your ears closed. The Shures do a better job of diminishing this noise because of the way you're supposed to use them.At the same time, isolation makes these types of phones a good option exactly for when you're walking on the street or riding a train, because you limit outside noise. It's all a matter of choosing the best compromise for you.I've read the md33 have great sound, better than the ex71 and actually better, according to many, than the Shure E2. They are made for Sharp minidisc players, though, that have a slightly different connector, with four poles instead of the regular three. Because of that, you need to do some kind of modification or use an extension cord that has the usual three poles. I'm not sure if that extension comes with the phones or not.Take a look also at the Sennheiser earbuds. They're not in-ear types. I have the mx300, which are cheap phones, and they sound very well considering their price. I suppose better models from Sennheiser must be quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 i also want to know what do you think about the sharp md33...←I think you are taking about these earphonesthere is some disscussion on itSharp HP-MD33S earbugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 There is a thing that i am certain about that i will never use any kind of extension... if it is a jack or a cord.. i will never use them....so the md33 has to be used with a jack converter i think.. because of the four polar.. right?? if i dont use it i wont be able to take a good sound from the md33..i wont buy sennheiser either...at the side, md33 is said to be better than ex71.. but here comes the four polar problem...NOW i am stuck... i couldnt make a decision.. if i will.. i am sure that it will be wrong.. stuck stuck stuck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Razorback you are overanalyzing each & every product you come across .So now you are traped in thinking whether to buy this or that ....Now stop looking at new headphones and buy a simple one ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 you are very right stuge...but now, let me do something.... You are the authority... so let me tell you my needs and expectations from a earbud.. Then you tell me which one i must buy... is it ok??? (The commenters are stuge, ascariss, beethovenian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 so let me tell you my needs and expectations from a earbud.So tell us what are your needs and expectations..You are the authorityHeY,We are not your masters or Authority.We all are your AtracFriend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 --no extension cord or no jack converter... (i think that using a extension will be problem for comfortability and an extension can weaken the sound quality)--no ex71 51 81 because of weak cord--it will be a in ear canal system earbud definitely-- good bass mid treb-- hıgh volume-- can be sharp md33. but it must get on well with the a1000 without the converter-- a reasonable frequency range-- good isolation-- comfortable-- cheap =)and here are the competitors..Panasonic RP-HJE50 http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headpho...t_Ear_pads.htmlPioneer SE-CL30http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headpho..._Earphones.htmlSharp HP-MD33S http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headpho...Headphones.htmlAiwa HP-VX101 http://www.audiocubes.com/category/Headpho..._Earphones.htmlphilips SHE9501/00 http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/c...RCSHQFHKFSESI5Pphilips SHE9500/00 http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/c...RCSHQFHKFSESI5Por, any other that you suggest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Leave "Sharp HP-MD33S " as frequency responce is not very wide.Specification of Philips Headphones looks good ... One year back i had a portable philips headphone(not the ear canal system type) & they lasted for about 10 months not bad at all .So quality of philips headphones is also goodMay i ask you a question.Have you tried any Ear in canal Earphones before?I`m asking you because ear in canal headphones are going to be incomfortable some what .So first try them in some store or borrow them from a friend ...Are you are comfortable with in ear incanal earphones ? Tell "yes" or "no"First answer this question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beethovenian Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Go to head-fi.org and you'll probably find some comments for all of those phones. Use their search. Just be carefull. If you're already, as Stuge said, overanalizing, you'll be even more after reading head-fi. Your wallet may be at risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mascis_ Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I Bought The Panasonic RP-HJE50 last sunday and...well...since its my first in ear (was using sennheiser mx-500 before) its kinda funny..most of the time..i dont really know if im supposed to shove the thing into my ear canal or just let it stay a lil more on the outside..this seems to get better isolation and lows than the formersound wise, its not too bad..but its not as clear as the mx-500, of course thats my opinion..The highs can be a little bit on the harsh side and the lows muddy when i tried it out the first time..i havent really burned them in yet...as i only use them after work unlike the senns..but it does seem to get better and better...of course i am aware that it could be a placebo effect here...have no real complains bout the mids tho. The bottom line is..if yorue into thumping bass and such..get sony and dont bother with this one...to be fair you CAN get a better and complete review at head-fi.orgor head to this site:http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1163140i bought my pannys based on the reviews here and head-fiits a chain cord thingy..so the right side is longer than the left..meant to go round your neck...handy when you need to take it off as the cord would just rest on the back of your neck as opposed to the sennheisers (Y cord). its about 0.5m (good for remotes) and comes with a 1m extension and this makes it kinda messy if you know what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 What happened "Razorback " you didn`t answer my Question???.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahmaninov Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm using "Sennheiser mx500" with my nwhd5. With earbud covers it sounds fantastic with amazing bass and details. Without them lacks bass. I think it's the best pair of in-ear-phones for 20$. Available in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Stuge,i couldnt answer because my exams are too much.. so i just enter the site and read the posts.. sorry for that and thax for being interested...yes i am comfortable with the in ear İNcanal earphones, but sometimes i did need to press the earphones into my ear.. so i think that in ear canal will solve this problem...no i never tried the in ear canal earphones.. and i think that i cant because here in Turkey, there is no where to buy this kind of earphones.. None of my friends have either..Beethovenian,i am just more scrambled in the head fi.. sorry...mascis,i thank you very much for your review and help... but i dont think that i will buy Panasonic RP-HJE50 .. because i didnt like it according to your review...Rahmaninov,but the frquency range is too short, i think... right?? but i am shocked with the sensitivity of mx500 119db/mv it is very high...at the end...i just want a earbud that is stronger than ex71... higher sound than ex71have the quality of sound as much as ex71strong and pure bassgood trebleThe most important thing is getting rid of pressing the earbusd into the ears.. so it must be in ear canal type.... ???i will mostly listen house and techno... like dım tıs dım tıs dım tıs......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 So how you are doing in your Exams???Best Of Luck !!!!Are you thinking of buying Philips one they are looking really good..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beethovenian Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 What about the Sennheiser IE4? Apparently, they're exactly the same as the Sharp md33, but without the need for an extension cord to have the regular three poles connection. The problem is that they're more expensive than the md33 (check eBay; I've seen them there for around US $55, a price that's close to the Shure E2c's). Or just get the md33. I don't think you'll have any degradation of sound quality because of the extension. And don't be so attached to specs. They don't mean much at this price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Stuge,exams are going great... my girlfriend teaches me and i am always getting 100 from the exams...i looked to the philips site for many times.. but i always say that i couldnt find them in Turkey.. but today i entered a shop and guess what i see??philips SHE785/00 if you find a bigger and much detailed of this model please inform me.. and you will understand this earbud better if you look it from the front side..http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/c...RCSHQVHKFSESI5Pit is not in ear canal but it seems very very quality... aand it is just 35 YTL... very cheap..but i want in ear canal too... ver very sad for me... =(((Beethovenian,that is the first time that i am hearing about the IE4 and i liked it very much.. and we dont have them here in Turkey i think.. but of course can be shipped here.. it would be better if i learned the frequency range of IE4 and shure e2c...and which one is better shure E2c or senn IE4?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 100 out off.....Nice to see that you are enjoying when giving exams. It`sad forr me no body teaches me i need to teach my self But like in my case wheever there is exmas whether I studied or not ..MY heartbeat startsts to Jump & my BP goes 160/100 (Kidding )Review of this philipsearphone is hard to find but i have a snap posted from adifferent angle .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 all of my exams are 100 out of 100...i suggest you to find a girlfriend for studying.. then studying became more enjoyable.. trust..yes that is the picture that i was mentioned... do you see projecting part in front of the earbud?? can it work like in ear canal?? or it is just nothing..??what do you think about tech specs?? it is 35 ytl and i will buy it in Turkey.. for example ex71 is 75-80 ytl for me to buy from a internationally shipping web site.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Yes ,I do see projecting part but i think its rubber (picture doesn`t clear that )At that Price frequency responce is not that bad at all ...(8-24000hz)I t also has a "volume control" switch .Philips has given them in the category "In Ear Headphones"But i will not recommend you to compare that phones with Ex71there are lot of Dissimilarities between them..Thanks for your Suggestion to find a girlfriend for studying ..but in my case no one can teach me(except for teachers) I need to do 6-7 hours of study daily ..after college ..I sometimes do study till 2-3am ...And i need peace while studying & no friends when i`m studying ....Nice to see that you are getting good results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 i am not comparing with the ex71.. md33 e2c panasonic IE4 all of them... just because of the price and availability in Turkey...so you are saying that it wont avoid not to press on the earbuds..???not just studying of course... hahaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 so you are saying that it wont avoid not to press on the earbuds..???Can you explain more...I don`t understand the line Is "Philips SHE785/00" available in nearby store??But it would be better if you could try it ..not just studying of course... hahaha...I know whAt you mean.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 i mean the isolation... can this model isolate the sound???yes it is available in a nearby store... but i dont think that i can try them.. because i must open the package and after that i must buy it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Yes, they can isolate outside sound somewhat but they are not noise reduction headphones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beethovenian Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Razor, why are you concerned about frequency range? I don't think it will actually make such a difference. I mean, the md33 (and IE4, which are the same) won't be worse than the Philips if their listed frequency range is not as wide. It may even happen that the Philips are better, but it won't be because of that.I really don't know the md33, only from reading very favourable comments. Some people say it sounds better than the Shure E2. I had the E2, and they're good, though not very detailed in the high end (bass is powerful). The E3 are definitely a step above (many dollars more also). They take some time getting used to, and some people give up before feeling comfortable with them. But they offer very good isolation and are very sturdy. Being more similar to the ex71 than the E2, I believe the md33/IE4 are much more comfortable. Isolation is not nearly as good with the ex71, though, and since they don't go deeper inside the ear canal, they can slip off your ears more easily as well. Also, the Shures are designed to be used over the ears, behind the neck, and that reduces microphonics a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 i am fed up with falling earbuds from my ears and pressing on earbuds into my ears... these to reasons commands me to buy in ear canal headphone... philips SBCHE590/00 is the only brand and model that i could find in ear canal type earphone in Turkeyhttp://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/c...RESHQFHKFSEKI5P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) and what about these sony noise canceling headphones???http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP...._NoiseCanceling----and the Koss Spark Plug+Etymotic ER4 Hybrid Isolation Earphones...http://cgi.ebay.com/Koss-Spark-Plug-Etymot...bayphotohostinghttp://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/p?ope...pc^eb^SPARKPLUG Edited December 19, 2005 by Razorback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Razorback you have only suggested us a budget of $55(US) ..Are you interested in increasing your budget?As your post suggest you are confusing yourself further by posting these links.EDIT#2I looked at the links you have posted ,2nd link is broken..Sony`s "MDR-NC11A" is not available in my country .So i haven`t tried it .Also Sony website suggest it needs a AAA battery for Noise Canceling to work...I have tried "MDR-G94NC" once In Sony World(after persuing the sales person a lot)They were really good ...I don`t have much information About KOSS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted December 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) you can find about the second link by typing "Koss Spark Plug+Etymotic ER4 Hybrid Isolation Earphones" in the search bar of ebay... and what do you think about purchasing from ebay??and forget about the noise canceling... Edited December 20, 2005 by Razorback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Koss Spark Plug+Etymotic ER4 Hybrid Isolation Earphones,Does looks good But I don`t have much information about Quality & all that ..Koss headphone/earphones are not available in my country .So i`m helpless in this case ..There is Some Disscusion about Koss headphones ...(I know it is not going to help you at all)KOss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Razorback,Have you bought any new headphones /earphones after such a long discussion or you are satisfied with the earphones that came with the A3000??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted January 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 no i am not satisfied the earphones that came with the a3000.. and willing to buy one soon..purchasing internationally ambarrassed me so much because of the customs... i dont know how much will i be responsible for the customs.. i dont want to pay for customs more than the earphones cost...and, i am thinking about the sennheiser mx500 and the philips SHE785/00do you know the specs of a3000s earphones?? db/mw, freq, distortion, driver.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 no... i think i will buy a shure e2c....because the isolation and the sound qulity is the most important... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stuge Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Razorback first makeup your mind which headphones you want to buy ..I haven`t answered to your A3000 spec query because i don`t know the specifications of the headphones supplied with it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecase Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I've been using E2c's for about a week now and am just getting used to them, they do 'isolate' very well and i'm very impressed with the sound quality, the only downside i can find is the length of the cable, especially when i'm using my remote with my A1000............, there's miles of the stuff getting in the way!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 but from the other side e2c is a bit expensive for me... (shipment + customs)i wish that it is being sold here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacecase Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I got mine for a reasonably good price (£59, most places on the Tottenham Court Road wanted between £75 and £80) in the January 'sales' after a bit of haggling. Ebay seems to be about the best place for getting them mail order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castar Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I got the EX81SL from Japan since my EX71SL's cord started peeling... Sound quality is the same, but the cord plastic is different and it seems more durable. I hope I don't have to pay again sony for headphones because this is really the last time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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