fabolousrmx Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hello i recently bought a cd retail, ripped it in 320 VBR (highest quality) then i put it on my minidisc in LP2 format. I was wondering if the minidisc is able to maintain the VBR and if there is any quality loss during the conversion? also what type of music file produces the best quality when converted to minidisc?thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Your NetMD isn't playing your mp3. It's playing its own format: ATRAC. So it has converted your mp3 to ATRAC. The better the quality going in, the better you will preserve. When you compress to mp3 or to ATRAC, you lose quality. When you compress twice, you lose twice, though your high-bitrate mp3 probably didn't lose an audible amount at your first stage. The best way to transfer CD to minidisc is to use SimpleBurner from the Downloads section on the www.minidisc.org homepage. Start the program, connect the MD, pop a CD into the drive and transfer it. The way you did it, you lost some quality compressing to mp3, and you lost more quality compressing the mp3 to LP2, which is ATRAC at 132 kbps. With Simple Burner, you could eliminate one round of compression. SonicStage will also transfer from CD to minidisc, and leave a compressed file (.oma) in My Library. Simple Burner doesn't clutter up your hard drive. The more you pack onto a disc, the lower the quality. SP (ATRAC at 292 kbps) is better than LP2, but then you get only the face value of the MD (74 or 80 minutes) rather than double. As you have probably noticed, LP4 (66 kpbs) puts a serious dent in music. The best quality music file to use is .wav , which is uncompressed, direct from the CD. There are some lossless compression formats--FLAC, .ape--but minidisc doesn't support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabolousrmx Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Your NetMD isn't playing your mp3. It's playing its own format: ATRAC. So it has converted your mp3 to ATRAC. The better the quality going in, the better you will preserve. When you compress to mp3 or to ATRAC, you lose quality. When you compress twice, you lose twice, though your high-bitrate mp3 probably didn't lose an audible amount at your first stage. The best way to transfer CD to minidisc is to use SimpleBurner from the Downloads section on the www.minidisc.org homepage. Start the program, connect the MD, pop a CD into the drive and transfer it. The way you did it, you lost some quality compressing to mp3, and you lost more quality compressing the mp3 to LP2, which is ATRAC at 132 kbps. With Simple Burner, you could eliminate one round of compression. SonicStage will also transfer from CD to minidisc, and leave a compressed file (.oma) in My Library. Simple Burner doesn't clutter up your hard drive. The more you pack onto a disc, the lower the quality. SP (ATRAC at 292 kbps) is better than LP2, but then you get only the face value of the MD (74 or 80 minutes) rather than double. As you have probably noticed, LP4 (66 kpbs) puts a serious dent in music. The best quality music file to use is .wav , which is uncompressed, direct from the CD. There are some lossless compression formats--FLAC, .ape--but minidisc doesn't support them.thanks, from now on i will use simple burner i rip from cd to minidisc, and ill try to rip in wav( i thought about doing that before but i never like wav files, idk why) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breepee2 Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Please, rip in a lossless compressed format, at least you'll be saving 45% space and be able to tag.Use WMA Lossless if you wan't compatibility with SonicStage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabolousrmx Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) What program do i use to encode WMA lossless? WMP or some other one? Edited October 7, 2005 by fabolousrmx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 fabolousrmx--What MD do you have? Only Hi-MD will play .pcm. And it only puts 90 minutes of .pcm on a 1GB Hi-MD disc. Since you're using LP2 I suspect you have a NetMD, and the best quality you can get is SP. breepee--Why rip to an intermediate stage at all to transfer to MD? Why not rip directly with Simple Burner, which will tag the songs with CDDB? To build a music library on the computer, then sure, use WMA lossless or FLAC, but otherwise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabolousrmx Posted October 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Thanks for all your suggestions thus far, I was wondering what is the best encoding/ converting program to use. I want to turn flac to atrac/mp3 and so forth. THanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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