timonoj Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Yesterday I installed the new SS3.4, since i reformatted my computer, and i wanted to upload some songs to my nh600d unit. I bought it on ebay (2nd hand) and from the beginning has been giving me some trouble when reading the hi md that were included on the pack. I didn't buy any HiMD extra media, since the box came with 3 of them. I have a bunch of old 160MB MDs, wich the unit read(and records) with no problem at all. But with the HiMD, it takes too long to read when connected, and when playing, certain songs give me problems. I think it's associated to the physical place where the songs are stored in the disc. But I'm not sure. Anyway. Yesterday i recorded a few songs, and then the whole thing went wrong. After uploading and disconnecting the unit, it started to say "CANNOT PLAY NOR RECORD MEDIA", and there was nothing else i could do. I tried to format the disc using SS, it gave me one of those lovely windows fatal errors (illegal operation), and finally another (lovely) BSOD. I tried on another computer with SS3.2, with little success...Is there anything i can do to save this disc? Do you know wether it's the unit or the HiMD, the ones wich are wrong? (all the HiMD give me these reading problems, but finally one just got completely messed). Sorry for this big text pack. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killroy Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hello,Most frequently this error comes from an incompletely written TOC (aka "System File") and it has been repeatedly reported here, that SonicStage often fails to format a such damaged disc. Usually, the MD-unit itself "invites" you to format the disc after inserting it, but only if it is not connected to the computer through USB at this time. Alternatively, you may try to do a manual format through the unit's menus.Cheers - Killroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timonoj Posted March 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hello,Most frequently this error comes from an incompletely written TOC (aka "System File") and it has been repeatedly reported here, that SonicStage often fails to format a such damaged disc. Usually, the MD-unit itself "invites" you to format the disc after inserting it, but only if it is not connected to the computer through USB at this time. Alternatively, you may try to do a manual format through the unit's menus.Cheers - Killroy.Lovely, then i'm completely screwed, im afraid. My unit is a MZ NH600D, that D means that it just plays, but it's not record capable, just through the usb input. I can't edit, move nor erase any song withing the disc using the MD's menu... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killroy Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Lovely, then i'm completely screwed, im afraid. My unit is a MZ NH600D, that D means that it just plays, but it's not record capable, just through the usb input. I can't edit, move nor erase any song withing the disc using the MD's menu... Oops, I missed that - sorry!Perhaps you've got a friend who owns a HiMD-unit other than the NH600D, or you ask a friendly merchant if he was ready to format your disc with one of his HiMD-units for sale. If neither is an option for you, maybe you'll find a member here who is located close to you so you can send her/him the disc. (I myself would like to help you, but if you're not located in the EU like me, I fear that shipping costs will exceed the value of a new disc).Cheers - Killroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timonoj Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Thanks for the offering since i live in europe...But i managed to format it through the windows file explorer. (it wasn't available the option for NTFS, weird). Anyway, i have a HiMD back to work.I wonder if it still has the problem with some parts of the surface (wich records with no problem, but then cannot play , just plays silence). That happens just to some songs, the silence happen just in certain parts of the song... Edited March 10, 2006 by timonoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatmuttony Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 But i managed to format it through the windows file explorer. (it wasn't available the option for NTFS, weird).Wow, you can do that?! How? Please, do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killroy Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Thanks for the offering since i live in europe...But i managed to format it through the windows file explorer. (it wasn't available the option for NTFS, weird). Anyway, i have a HiMD back to work.I wonder if it still has the problem with some parts of the surface (wich records with no problem, but then cannot play , just plays silence). That happens just to some songs, the silence happen just in certain parts of the song...Glad, that you managed it that way!Although not very probable, it is of course possible that the disc has a physical defect indeed, so you might bring it back to the place of purchase and ask for replacement. May also be the case, that your recorder's laser drops out sometimes, which - in best case - is just because of dust that covers the lens...Cheers - Killroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timonoj Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Well the things is the bug happens with the only three HiMD that I have, wich just came in the same package I bought 2nd hand on ebay (so no dealer thing). Apart from those ones, i just have old MDs. I reformatted some of them to the HiMD format, so i get 280MB (i think) instead of 160MB, and they work fine. So the only thing i can say is that it's not a decoder bug. I still have to decide wether it's a disc problem, or a problem with the laser beam, just when reading the 1GB discs surface.Wow, you can do that?! How? Please, do tell.Well, for formatting with windows, on the file explorer, u go to the removable drive that shows up when u connect your unit, right click on it, and then format...I'm not pretty sure wether it's FAT16 or FAT32 the right option, I think it first was on FAT16, since it was pre-selected, but i swapped to FAT32. It took some seconds, and then when I loaded SS, i were told to reinitialise the the disc, so i did...And that's all!However, for me, it keeps the bugging thing about some silences on certain songs. Again, that's just with the 1GB discs... Edited March 10, 2006 by timonoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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