bayoubilly Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 (edited) i have a mz-rh10 and SP-TFB-2HT mic (that go in the ears). i've recorded a few in-store performances (not as loud as real concerts) with the default gain control on and had no distortion, except for really loud drum hits sometimes, and it adjusts itself after that so its fine. trying to record a concert with the default gain control distorts all over the place, so i manually adjust the gain so the levels light up around the middle but it still distorts, but not as much. and the bass is really loud. help, thanks. Edited March 23, 2006 by bayoubilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamer Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Check this :http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=9069 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmachine Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Either that or a so called 'battery box', which will enable virtually distortion-free line-in recording. Works best if it's really loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shreadhead Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Man was I glad to find this forum!! In my area no one I know of is using Mini-Disk for live recordings besides myself. The overload distortion issue is one I have just lived with for several years. Thanks to you guys now I know how to fix it !! !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubilly Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 thanks guys. i can't find the attenuator on radioshack's site though for some reason. do they still sell them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 (edited) Radio Shack doesn't call it an attenuator, they call it a headphone volume control. http://www.radioshack.com/sm-gold-plated-v...pi-2102975.html Edited March 24, 2006 by A440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubilly Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 okay. i'll go to radioshack to see if they have any. if they don't is there anywhere else i can get one of these?tips on how to use this and setting suggestions would be greatly appreciated.i've been reading a lot of stuff here and it's rediculous how helpful and cool this place is. super thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) Depends on your mics and how loud the music is. I use it with the little volume knob turned all the way UP and the manual recording level on the MD unit set to between 17/30 and 20/30. You may have different results with your mics. It is always better to use Manual level than automatic. To set it, press REC and PAUSE, and you'll see a blinking display. Then: MENU/REC SET/RECORD VOLUME/Manual....and then you will see a number like 13/30, which you can raise or lower with the jog wheel or pointing stick. You need to do this each time you start recording (or after every time you press STOP)--an annoyance that the RH1 is finally supposed to eliminate. Also, if you are recording something with bass that makes your ears hurt, then the mics themselves will overload. To prevent that you need to use a battery module instead, like this one:http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmcbmminminc.htmand record through line-in. But Mic--attenuator--Mic-in works fine for a lot of situations. Edited March 25, 2006 by A440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Otaku Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I know this doesn't help anyone else, but I'm somewhat confused by the fact that everyone wants battery modules or attenuators to deal with distortion caused by high SPLs hitting their mics.I have SP-TFB-2 microphone. The only sources I've ever experienced audible distortion with while recording were:* Thunder from a lightning strike within 500m of me* Jet engines within 20m* Jet engines in afterburn flying directly overhead at an altitutde of perhaps 200m* Artillery [Howitzer] firing at approx. 200m distanceOn the other hand, I've recorded grossly overpowered punk/metal shows in small venues, as well as similar music in tiny [acoustically] untreated spaces when it's necessary to wear earplugs [and even then it hurts] .. with no unbias/overSPL distortion whatsoever. Am I just lucky or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I've never had the in-ear binaurals, Dex, so maybe you have magically shaped outer ears.My BMC-2's, presumably with the same microphone capsules, overload the mic jack with just about any rock bass or drums, unless I have an attenuator or module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubilly Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 (edited) okay, i got pretty good results with the attenuator but i'm looking for something better.i've been looking at the reactive "juice box" battery box. is that a good bet, or would it be worth it to get a preamp instead? Edited March 30, 2006 by bayoubilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 A preamp will amplify the music. Your music is loud enough without it. The Juice Box will do your job, but it's about as big as your MD unit. For the same price, I get great results with this Microphone Madness module, which still puts out 9V, from three little lithium 3V batteries, but it's only 2.1" x 1.3" x .5" (like a car-alarm remote). http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmcbmminminc.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubilly Posted March 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 thanks for the input. i'll probably get that mint box one or SP-SPSB1S though since the bass is a real problem, it'd be nice to have that bass roll off thing. now i just have to save up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A440 Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Bass won't be a problem through Line-In. The preamp behind Mic-In is what's sensitive to bass--you're bypassing it with Line-In. Bass roll-off takes away some of your recorded music. You can't get it back because it was never recorded. Even at a bassy show, it's better to get a high-fidelity recording and then, if you have to, limit the bass with EQ when you play back the recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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