Not able to transfer error

[JenW]

Hello,

This is my first post, and this thread is why I a member of this forum. I have three MD players, one dating back to 1999. However the Sony proprietary software is killing me!

SonicStage had this to tell me this weekend,

"ERROR: Unable to transfer the following tracks to My Library because they are recorded by Net MD or another computer."

What really happened is that I never used OpenMG or SonicStage. It wasn't necessary for me to upload my music to a computer; I liked the MiniDisc unit options just fine, thank you. Now I need to get my vinyl recordings off my MD because I recently went to a UMS device, the Meizu Mini Player M6.

I am disappointed in Sony for making me record all my hundreds of 74 minute MD's in real time!

One, I've learned to use the software provided by a MTP formatted device.

Two, I've learned to back-up my music in the software provided so I can have the joy of converting it, rather than real time.

Here's my question: I have the OpenMG software, and when I plugged in the MD player that came with it the software didn't find the MD device. Why is that? (I uninstalled SonicStage before installing OpenMG).

~Jen

[JenW]

To top my Sony Software experience off, OpenMG will NOT let me re-install! OpenMG interrupts itself and asks to restart or cancel! When I restart, nothing installs, and when I cancel, nothing installs!

I am so furious.

HELP, please!

~Jen

Edited January 16, 2007 by JenW

[JenW]

Well, I was able to talk to Sony Tech Support. Bottom line; if I'm not using the computer I started with or back-up my files, no matter what, I'm stuck with analog real time recordings of all my MiniDiscs.

This sucks.

~Jen

[A440]

I'm stuck with analog real time recordings of all my MiniDiscs.

This sucks.

Yes, it does.

The only minidisc units made for uploading are Hi-MD. Your NetMD or older units never uploaded, with or without SonicStage. Until Hi-MD, all the music transfer was one-way, from PC to MD.

And the only Hi-MD unit that will upload pre-Hi-MD recordings--SP, LP2, LP4--is the new MZ-RH1. However, despite what Sony told you, if you can get your hands on one, you can upload those old recordings. The only recordings the RH1 will not upload are ones transferred through NetMD, which you didn't use. Realtime recordings from old MDs will upload.

OMG is absolute software garbage. Uninstall it completely according to the Software FAQ here:

http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=8071

If you do get your hands on an RH1, get SonicStage 4.0 from Downloads here:

http://forums.minidisc.org/downloads/details.php?file=21

Now if you can just borrow one from somewhere....

[raintheory]

If you get the newest unit (MZ-RH1) you can upload all of those older discs via USB... Much faster than realtime.

Have a look around here in the forums for info on it. How many recordings do you have? Perhaps you can find someone here that would be willing to help you get those recordings from the discs to CD (using their MZ-RH1).

EDIT: A440 your a quick one..

Edited January 16, 2007 by raintheory

[JenW]

The MZ-RH1 is not a purchase option for me; I don't want another MD player just to save time. I used my MD recorders for my DJ mixes and live stage recordings. There are other formats I am interested in for my data storage.

I have uninstalled and deleted the lingering Sony OpenMG files (.omg) software from my computer. I even tried to access OpenMG on one of our Microsoft Vista OS laptops in the house, darn program asked for a "data user" for access to the program. I didn't think about it too long when I let that program go.

I have 26 MD's that I need to be re-recorded to another format. I'm just in aw with how Sony gets away with not programming their software to allow for the .omg to be converted from the original MD source. Bad business in my opinion ... I'm upset about it.

Thanks for the help & advice. I appreciate it.

~Jen

[dancicero]

Jen:

I completely agree about this issue. I recorded my entire LP collection to MD and edited all the track names and whatnot. That was a huge time commitment, which I didn't mind because playing the MDs is a lot easier than playing those old LPs. Problem is, I can't transfer those files to the computer for further transfer to CDs or even to play them from the computer. I have a Sony NetMD NZ-707, which cost me a fortune when I bought it back in 2003. I don't want to buy a new player simply because of this issue and something tells me, even if I did, there would still be problems.

I'm sure there are teams of lawyers with all kinds of good reasons why I shouldn't be allowed to transfer music I purchased in one format and recorded for my own use in another, but the reality is it's very frustrating.

Dan

[A440]

OK, it's frustrating. OK, it's stupid on Sony's part. But pardon me if I think everybody's whining is a little exaggerated at this late date.

NetMD never promised you could transfer from minidisc to computer. You probably knew that, or should have, when you got the MZ-N707 that you've been using for four years. It's a hardware limitation, not a software choice.

You can sulk, you can continue to play the MDs you have on your MD player or any other MD player, and if you're really eager to transfer them you can get an RH1. Sony finally, belatedly offered a solution. It's up to you whether you think it's fair or economical. It will work, however.

Even if you recorded the LPs in SP, you have already degraded their sound quality because SP is compressed. You'd be better off re-recording them in a lossless format. You could do that directly to your computer, through a Line-in jack or a $40 Griffin iMic (USB connection).

Your turntable doesn't upload to your computer either. Maybe you'll want to boycott that manufacturer as well. How dare they!

Jen, you could find someplace with a 30-day no-questions-asked warranty, get your hands on an RH1, be very gentle with it, upload your discs and send it back. That would teach Sony a big lesson.

You'll have to find a computer where you have administrator privileges--that's a latter-day, security-crazed Microsoft/Windows restriction, not Sony's fault. OMG wasn't made for the Vista operating system, since Vista didn't exist at the time. That must be Sony's fault too.

If you do get an RH1, use its own disc (the RH1 version of SonicStage 3.4) or SonicStage 4.x. OMG is completely obsolete and good riddance to it.

Edited January 20, 2007 by A440

[dancicero]

I guess you can call me a whiner, but that doesn't do anyone any good either.

I used to do a lot of live recordings of family members playing music. These recordings were made outside, with a small casette recorder. Those tapes, needless to say, sounded awful. The MD deck I bought was perfect for this job. I could just let the tapes run, edit them, equalize them a little in the process to get rid of some of the noise, etc. It was a great solution to what had previously been a really big problem: dubbing and editing these things using two tape decks. The MD deck allowed me to move tracks around, delete them if I needed to, re-record stuff that turned out now sounding so good. That was in 2000 or so. If I remember right, there was no NetMD yet, so no software to worry about. Your point that we should have known we couldn't do this MD-to-PC transfer was never part of the discussion at the time.

I still have that deck, use it almost daily and would buy another one if I needed to. I really think MD is a tremendous format for what I'm doing: digitizing all my analog music. I put the turntable in storage and will do the same with my tape deck soon. By the way, none of the options you mentioned for recording the LPs was readily available back then either.

One thing I don't like about the deck is the track naming functions. Entering every letter onto the MD through the remote is a slow way to do anything, so I take the MDs and -- until last week -- used OpenMG Jukebox 2.2 to edit the track names. Now I've got SonicStage because I had hoped to download OverDrive AudioBooks only to the MD. No go, of course, because of security nonsense. OpenMG worked fine for this stuff, by the way. I never had a problem with it.

To suggest it's whining to be seeking a way to transfer these files is silly. This forum exists in part to allow people a vehicle to do just that. All I'm trying to do is make more use of devices and media I've already bought and paid for.

Dan

[The Low Volta]

yes and no...

you are indeed just

trying to ... make more use of devices and media I've already bought and paid for

and there really is nothing against that whatsoever... but there really is no need to get angry because 'the devices and media you already bought and paid for' will unfortunately for you only do what they were intended to do and not what you would like them to do...

NetMD was not designed for two way USB-tranfers. It is a hardware limitation and not a copyright conspiracy from Sony. I'm not saying that at the time NetMD was designed the restriction might not have been instigated by their copy-fears! I'm just saying that NetMD couldn't do it, can't do it and never will be able to do it as the restriction is hardware fixed. Why then does anyone have the guts to call you a whiner? Well because Sony never lied to you about the USB-transfer abilities: they clearly stated that it was one-way only and everyone seemed to grasp that notion... until now...

It is only now that HiMD allowed two-way transfers that all of a sudden everyone (remember, this is not about you alone... you'd never get a strong word like 'whiner' thrown at you if you'd been the first to bring this up) expects that NetMD 'magically' should be able to do this as well "just because it has a USB-port as well"

Get over it: you bought something (a NetMD recorder) at some point in time (2003) for a certain price (a fortune) and it did exactly what it was supposed to do and still works just fine unless I have missed anything... now (4 years later) you see something better (can do what you would have liked in the first place) and you demand that your older (read pre-technologically possible) purchase should be able to do this as well even though it is technically impossible... and we are not allowed to call you a whino?

Who am I to nag you like this... well, I have been in your shoes even though it was a slightly different feature-issue and a very different reaction on my part. I bought an NH900 in 2004 and was fully aware of the non-mac compatibility. I was mainly a mac user, but I needed the HiMD functions and I started using a newly bought PC so I could use it as I needed... one year after there was the release of the mac-compatible M-models... should this lead me to wine about the inexisting mac-functions of my NH900? No but just like you now lots of ppl did! I didn't think the new mac-features (at that time MD -> mac only and PCM-only) warranted investing in a new MD-recorder, so I didn't... end of story at that time. One year later the RH1 was released. It offered not only two-way transfers to and from mac, but also compatibility for all HiMD bitrates and as a bonus it remembered recording settings as well and had a lit display. I again didn't whine about my older unit not posessing all these features, but I simply invested in an RH1 because this time I did reckon the new features warranted the expense...

bottom line:

- either you did not know about the limitations of what you bought and this history should teach you to invest a little more time researching your investments

- or you did know about them and it is simply part of the everyday technological evolution (what you buy today is old tomorrow) and if you feel the need to whine about that... fair enough, but that means it is only fair for ppl to point that out to you as well

no hard feelings!

PS: the fact you can't play those DRM-ed audiobooks is another issue, mainly the fault of 1) the codec designers and 2) the library as they chose an unaccessible closed and stupidly protected format (heck, providing audiobooks and/or podcasts in a format that most portable DAPs can't play is just plain stupid) but it certainly is not Sony's fault

[A440]

I still have that deck, use it almost daily and would buy another one if I needed to.....

To suggest it's whining to be seeking a way to transfer these files is silly.

There is a way: the MZ-RH1.

Get one before you get another deck, since it does everything the deck does--plus uploading and higher-quality recording--except take up shelf space.

And I've got a problem, too: my toaster won't play satellite radio broadcasts, and I'm very upset about it....

[The Low Volta]

And I've got a problem, too: my toaster won't play satellite radio broadcasts, and I'm very upset about it....

aw darn... I spent all this time coming up with this elaborate reply... and then it all could be said so much better in just a few words

PS: really dancicero, I can honestly say that A440 and I (and others) might sound harsh but we really do not mean to offend and we bear no grudge or anything...I'm the first to agree we are having a bit of fun at your expence, but after so many rants of ppl wanting NetMD to be something it isn't (just have read here on MDCF) it is just a way of letting off steam I guess.

[raintheory]

Anyone else remember this?

http://www.minidisc.org/netmd_petition_support.html

I think we played a big part in them allowing Hi-MD>PC transfers when they released Hi-MD.

[The Low Volta]

see, whining to Sony about features that haven't been implemented yet (as opposed to whining that they haven't been implemented in your older equipment as well) is something I do fully support

we as MDCF also could have had an influence on:

- direct MP3-support (RH710 and upwards)

- (back)lit displays on the recorders being reintroduced (RH10, RH1, DH10P)

- uploading possibility of legacy discs (RH1)

- remembering rec-settings (RH1)

and perhaps even a couple of SonicStage evolutions like:

- dropping downloading restrictions

- ditching the one-time-uploading restriction (3.2 I believe)

and I guess there's still some I missed here

So keep nagging about relevant stuff... and be proud of it!

PS: see I completely forgot about (full) mac-compatibility already

Edited January 21, 2007 by The Low Volta

[raintheory]

The main thing (which I can't stress enough to people) is to do your homework and research products before you buy them... Know what you are getting, know what it can do. And if it turns out to be able to do more down the road (transferring mp3 to RH10 via Mac with the new version of the software, for example) that's wonderful, be glad. But don't get frustrated if it doesn't.

A good example is my DVD player. It's an older one, and not that great, but i just found out recently (quite by accident) that VCD's would actually play in it. Great! I didn't know that. I tried to play an AVI movie file from a CD and it did nothing, bummer.. But then again, it never said it could play either formats. Sure I might post on the manufacturers site to find if there is some kind of firmware upgrade or something, but I really have no right or reason to press the issue beyond that..

Sorry to go off on a rant here, but I think alot of us here in the forums (myself included) try our best to help out whoever we can. It can be frustrating for us sometimes (hey we don't get paid for this), so don't take it personally. We are only trying to help.

EDIT: Also, you have to understand that we get A LOT of questions here that could easily be answered with a quick search in the forums.

Edited January 21, 2007 by raintheory

[dancicero]

No offense taken to anything posted here.

My rant here regarding uploading was more of a byproduct rant. My biggest beef is with the inability to handle the secure files used by OverDrive Audio Books. It would be really cool if I could download audiobooks from my local library and listen to them on my MD. Now I'm learning that those audiobooks are provided in a format that almost nothing can use, including the ubiquitous iPod.

I've been a big MD booster since I bought my home deck all those years ago. Like I said, I use it almost every day. I guess the biggest worry I have is that the format is going to die one of these days and then I'll have to find a way to transfer all those files again! (Of course, the format's been around for, what, fifteen years or something, so I guess it's inevitable that it will be obsolete one of these days.)

[JenW]

OK, it's frustrating. OK, it's stupid on Sony's part. But pardon me if I think everybody's whining is a little exaggerated at this late date.

NetMD never promised you could transfer from minidisc to computer. You probably knew that, or should have, when you got the MZ-N707 that you've been using for four years. It's a hardware limitation, not a software choice.

You can sulk, you can continue to play the MDs you have on your MD player or any other MD player, and if you're really eager to transfer them you can get an RH1. Sony finally, belatedly offered a solution. It's up to you whether you think it's fair or economical. It will work, however.

Even if you recorded the LPs in SP, you have already degraded their sound quality because SP is compressed. You'd be better off re-recording them in a lossless format. You could do that directly to your computer, through a Line-in jack or a $40 Griffin iMic (USB connection).

Your turntable doesn't upload to your computer either. Maybe you'll want to boycott that manufacturer as well. How dare they!

Jen, you could find someplace with a 30-day no-questions-asked warranty, get your hands on an RH1, be very gentle with it, upload your discs and send it back. That would teach Sony a big lesson.

You'll have to find a computer where you have administrator privileges--that's a latter-day, security-crazed Microsoft/Windows restriction, not Sony's fault. OMG wasn't made for the Vista operating system, since Vista didn't exist at the time. That must be Sony's fault too.

If you do get an RH1, use its own disc (the RH1 version of SonicStage 3.4) or SonicStage 4.x. OMG is completely obsolete and good riddance to it.

Calm down ... (pat, pat) it's OK, no one is angry at you.

If my turntable ever came with software so I could upload to my computer, and then change software compatibilities ... I'd be just as pissed off!

It's a good idea to get a RH1 they way you suggested.

I figured OMG wasn't made for Vista, I found it hilarious that the program was asking for a "data user"; I wasn't upset. Since OpenMG wasn't re-installing on XP, I wanted to test the software and see if it installed all together. I tested it on Vista.

All CD's (and cassette tapes) are compatible with different programs. Why does Sony have to limit programs that read MD's? That's what bother's me ... the program, SonicStage, can be written to read OMG straight from the disc if Sony wanted it to. Sony has chosen to not want to help their customers. They limit their software to gain new sales. I'm not a particular fan of companies that choose to limit their "conversions". In this case it is Sony’s fault. Shame on Sony!

~Jen

[The Low Volta]

Why does Sony have to limit programs that read MD's? That's what bother's me ... the program, SonicStage, can be written to read OMG straight from the disc if Sony wanted it to.

*sigh* ...

that is quite a bold statement you're making there. This can mean a couple of things:

- you have inside knowledge, which means you should have better routes to express your bitterness as well than just posting on some ignorant forum

- you are a very good software designer that simply sees such a thing in which case I would say: 'get to work and rewrite SS to allow this' as you could make good money from it and lots of ppl would be grateful

- you simply take your dreams for proven reality

now which one is more likely?

as said before (and as very thoroughly researched and explained here on MDCF by dex otaku some time ago)... the ulpoading disability in NetMD is also a hardware issue, so no it couldn't be fixed by 'allowing' it in SS (BTW, SS 'allows' it as the RH1 can do it and all HiMD units can do it for HiMD recordings)

please read the replies carefully

post 4: Your NetMD or older units never uploaded, with or without SonicStage

post 8: It's a hardware limitation, not a software choice

post 10: NetMD was not designed for two way USB-tranfers. It is a hardware limitation and not a copyright conspiracy from Sony

so: just to recap... it isn't (entirely) a software issue... it really isn't... sony never lied to you (well, not about this one thing at least ) ... they can't 'allow' your old machine to upload

PS: let me try to understand your interpretation of A440's analogy correct there

If my turntable ever came with software so I could upload to my computer, and then change software compatibilities ... I'd be just as pissed off!

does this mean you have been stalking your CD-ROM drive manufacturer? because 1) it is also an audio-player (like MD and turntables); 2) it uses software that allowed one-way traffic (here from CD -> PC) which is quite like your NetMD (in reverse); and 3) was eventually surpassed by CD-writers which from the outside looked just the same, but used other software and allowed two-way traffic (CD -> PC and PC -> CD) and 4) installing that software on a computer with a CD-ROM reader didn't allow this two-way traffic (just like NetMD) ... and then we didn't even address CD-RW or DVD(-RW) etc. yet...

darn you should have whined to a lot of ppl already if every technological evolution inspires such a reaction it is kinda funny but also very tragic to see that you missed the point of A440's analogy completely

PS2: *edit* I still didn't mean to offend you... my tone of voice really was not personally directed, it is just my own bad reaction to the irritation the returning 'angry reactions to the wrong stuff' like the one you unfortunately made. I ranted about your post but it really was aimed at anyone that keeps on 'whining' about the NetMD issue

Edited January 24, 2007 by The Low Volta

[A440]

Jen and Dan, you were the lucky recipients of my crankiness overload. Don't worry, it only happens about once every 20 minutes.

Jen, I agree completely with your larger point about proprietary formats and proprietary software. Generally I hate them, and so does the marketplace--they rarely last (except of course for Windows and .wma, which survives because it's a near-monopoly bullying the software market). Same thing with DRM audio. If they don't trust me, they're not getting my business--I won't buy DRM files, period, and yes, that includes iTunes.

The reason I tolerate the proprietary format of minidisc is simply because the hardware is so useful. When I got my first MD unit, it was a huge leap upward from cassette recorders: digital quality! random access! track marks! titling! And while I'll probably switch to a flash recorder when someone makes one with quality and convenience similar to MD or better--the technology is available, and I don't know what companies are waiting for--at the moment I still find my Hi-MD units to be little wonders.

What I was saying was that NetMDs, like turntables and cassette players, don't upload, were never made to upload, can't upload and never promised they would upload. They didn't have this capability only to have Sony remove it--they never had it.

[stanton, Denon and Numark now make turntables with digital outputs. I don't hold it against them that my old Denon doesn't have a digital output. ]

It's a measure of Sony's general idiocy regarding minidiscs--and probably stupid lawyer paranoia about music copying--that NetMD wasn't made two-way to begin with. That choice has been generally disastrous for minidisc as a format. But it has been three years since Sony made its last NetMDs, so to me that's ample time for people to figure out what they do and what they don't do.

Personally I think the absoute best bit of pressure placed on Sony came from Marcnet with Hi-MD Renderer. When Hi-MD first appeared, Sony trumpeted that you could finally get the recordings off Hi-MD and into Sonicstage--where, it seemed, Sony was ready to leave them. Marcnet wrote Hi-MD Renderer, which (to my limited technical knowledge) didn't illegally crack Sony's encryption, but played tracks back via SonicStage's DirectX filters in the computer at high speed to "record" them and then convert them. [someone correct me if I've mis-explained that.]

Lo and behold, after Hi-MD Renderer appeared, Sony offered .wav converter and you could finally get usable, unencrypted files of your recordings. We'll never know if Sony was ever going to offer that feature otherwise.

Edited January 23, 2007 by A440

[JenW]

*sigh* ...

that is quite a bold statement you're making there. This can mean a couple of things:

- you have inside knowledge, which means you should have better routes to express your bitterness as well than just posting on some ignorant forum

- you are a very good software designer that simply sees such a thing in which case I would say: 'get to work and rewrite SS to allow this' as you could make good money from it and lots of ppl would be grateful

- you simply take your dreams for proven reality

now which one is more likely?

as said before (and as very thoroughly researched and explained here on MDCF by dex otaku some time ago)... the ulpoading disability in NetMD is also a hardware issue, so no it couldn't be fixed by 'allowing' it in SS (BTW, SS 'allows' it as the RH1 can do it and all HiMD units can do it for HiMD recordings)

please read the replies carefully

so: just to recap... it isn't (entirely) a software issue... it really isn't... sony never lied to you (well, not about this one thing at least ) ... they can't 'allow' your old machine to upload

PS: let me try to understand your interpretation of A440's analogy correct theredoes this mean you have been stalking your CD-ROM drive manufacturer? because 1) it is also an audio-player (like MD and turntables); 2) it uses software that allowed one-way traffic (here from CD -> PC) which is quite like your NetMD (in reverse); and 3) was eventually surpassed by CD-writers which from the outside looked just the same, but used other software and allowed two-way traffic (CD -> PC and PC -> CD) and 4) installing that software on a computer with a CD-ROM reader didn't allow this two-way traffic (just like NetMD) ... and then we didn't even address CD-RW or DVD(-RW) etc. yet...

darn you should have whined to a lot of ppl already if every technological evolution inspires such a reaction it is kinda funny but also very tragic to see that you missed the point of A440's analogy completely

PS2: *edit* I still didn't mean to offend you... my tone of voice really was not personally directed, it is just my own bad reaction to the irritation the returning 'angry reactions to the wrong stuff' like the one you unfortunately made. I ranted about your post but it really was aimed at anyone that keeps on 'whining' about the NetMD issue

With humor, I write:

No, I'm not a programmer, (software testers are in my household), and gawd darn it get back to work and make SonicStage do this! The feature failed.

If MD worked in reverse, as CD-ROM, then I wouldn't be here talking about how I'm disappointed & I wouldn't be using the MD like I do.

I understand what you are saying, and yes, I dream big.

And ... who says I'm not on other forums complaining about their technology already! Har-har. Really, I've already given it to Apple's iPod and iTunes. Gawd! Forums receive a concentration of complaints; however, this is the very first complaint I have ever had with my MD player since my first one in 1999. That makes my personal MD complaint statistic low.

~Jen

Jen and Dan, you were the lucky recipients of my crankiness overload. Don't worry, it only happens about once every 20 minutes.

Jen, I agree completely with your larger point about proprietary formats and proprietary software. Generally I hate them, and so does the marketplace--they rarely last (except of course for Windows and .wma, which survives because it's a near-monopoly bullying the software market). Same thing with DRM audio. If they don't trust me, they're not getting my business--I won't buy DRM files, period, and yes, that includes iTunes.

The reason I tolerate the proprietary format of minidisc is simply because the hardware is so useful. When I got my first MD unit, it was a huge leap upward from cassette recorders: digital quality! random access! track marks! titling! And while I'll probably switch to a flash recorder when someone makes one with quality and convenience similar to MD or better--the technology is available, and I don't know what companies are waiting for--at the moment I still find my Hi-MD units to be little wonders.

What I was saying was that NetMDs, like turntables and cassette players, don't upload, were never made to upload, can't upload and never promised they would upload. They didn't have this capability only to have Sony remove it--they never had it.

[stanton, Denon and Numark now make turntables with digital outputs. I don't hold it against them that my old Denon doesn't have a digital output. ]

It's a measure of Sony's general idiocy regarding minidiscs--and probably stupid lawyer paranoia about music copying--that NetMD wasn't made two-way to begin with. That choice has been generally disastrous for minidisc as a format. But it has been three years since Sony made its last NetMDs, so to me that's ample time for people to figure out what they do and what they don't do.

Personally I think the absoute best bit of pressure placed on Sony came from Marcnet with Hi-MD Renderer. When Hi-MD first appeared, Sony trumpeted that you could finally get the recordings off Hi-MD and into Sonicstage--where, it seemed, Sony was ready to leave them. Marcnet wrote Hi-MD Renderer, which (to my limited technical knowledge) didn't illegally crack Sony's encryption, but played tracks back via SonicStage's DirectX filters in the computer at high speed to "record" them and then convert them. [someone correct me if I've mis-explained that.]

Lo and behold, after Hi-MD Renderer appeared, Sony offered .wav converter and you could finally get usable, unencrypted files of your recordings. We'll never know if Sony was ever going to offer that feature otherwise.

My Gemini's and panasonic technics models don't have the digital outputs.

Even then, the recording is still reall time ... what are you going to do? Play the vinyl at 33 x ~ ?? lol

I get that Sony will not have the recording feature that I want. BUT wouldn't it be nice?

~Jen

Edited January 25, 2007 by JenW

[polyhedroid]

Hi everyone !

Had the same kind of problems for the last two weeks, couldn't upload .mp3 to my md.

I've tried to change most configurations within ubuntu and, virtualbox....

even change the way the usbfs handle devices... all failed until a few minutes...

It was not a format or conversion problem but simply that my VM didn't had any sound card...

I hope it will reduce the amount of sleepless nights of some people.

Cheers