UMWOOFWOOFF Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Hi there...I'm about to make the leap and get an RH-1. Several weeks back I purchased an Onkyo Hi-MD deck from a seller on Craig's List, and it doesn't work. I posted on this site about it, but the door mechanism appears to be broken. Anyway, I talked to someone who HAS the same Onkyo deck and he told me that when you divide tracks on it, you cannot accurately fine-tune the divide point. I was told that there are only a few settings (+1, +2, +3, -1, -2, -3, etc.) that you can "move" the divide point to, and that they aren't precise. Apparently, you can't fine tune the exact location as you can on say a Sony regular MD home deck. You can CHANGE the divide point, but when you try to do it, it moves either too far or not far enough; you can't micro-adjust the divide point like on a regular Sony MD deck. On my MD's, I don't use a computer, and I frequently edit them to near perfection...songs start the instant sound is heard, songs are cut/pasted, etc...it is critical that I am able to actually fine tune the actual divide point. I copy a lot of songs from a Carver tube CD player, and record through it's soft-eq circuit through the analog outs into either a 555ES or 333ES deck. This requires fading out the analog slight hiss at the end of the song, but at the beginning of a song, I use the divide feature to accurately divide and erase the hissy section just prior to the music starting. I do this when recording off of reel to reel tapes too...my bottom line is that I have to be able to micro-adjust the divide point. The Onkyo apparently cannot do that. So...Does anyone know how accurate the divide rehearsal feature on the RH-1 can be adjusted? Does it operate with the precision of a standard home Sony MD deck? Or, are the increments larger as on the Onkyo deck? I need to be able to adjust the divide point in tiny adjustments...the same way as on standard MD decks.I'm archiving some band recordings from the 90's onto Hi-MD from reel to reel, and don't want to use CD as they hardly ever play no matter what deck or brand of CD's I use. I want to use Hi-MD, but only if I can edit like I stated above with the same precision as plain old MD home decks. I don't have any desire to use a computer for recording. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strungup Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Hi there...Does anyone know how accurate the divide rehearsal feature on the RH-1 can be adjusted? Does it operate with the precision of a standard home Sony MD deck? Or, are the increments larger as on the Onkyo deck? I need to be able to adjust the divide point in tiny adjustments...the same way as on standard MD decks.I'm archiving some band recordings from the 90's onto Hi-MD from reel to reel, and don't want to use CD as they hardly ever play no matter what deck or brand of CD's I use. I want to use Hi-MD, but only if I can edit like I stated above with the same precision as plain old MD home decks. I don't have any desire to use a computer for recording. Thanks for your help!No , the RH1 is a Portable machine designed for the CAPTURING of audio not the editing of it . It does have editing funtions , and with the 40elk remote they are usable , but not micro adjustable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMWOOFWOOFF Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) Thanks Wizard...I'm kinda surprised that the divide function worked so well for you on your Onkyo. From what I hear, the MD-133 moves the divide mark very far (comparitively speaking) every time you move it forward or backward, corresponding to the +1 or whatever the display reads, but it is very much more than 0.06 second; perhaps your Onkyo works differently in this function than the MD-133 as the MD-133 moves the track probably 0.25 seconds with each adjustment...or, were you referring to the SONY when you referred to the 0.06 second? Just how accurate IS the RH-1 then? How far does the point move actually every time you change the position in one increment? An example of what I do with this function is my minidisc of The Beatles' Abbey Road; I put "Her Majesty" back in it's original location in the 1st medley on the second side of that album, just for fun. You canNOT tell it was never there; the combination is absolutely seamless and perfect (BTW, the medley is BETTER the original way). But, it takes precision in the adjustment to do work like that. However, these sort of attributes are the REASON I'm devoted to minidisc and love it immensely. If I'm going to archive my treasured reel to reel original material to Hi-MD, I want to at least edit it on a machine to the perfection that I'm able to get with regular MD. There is no unit that can actually do that? That's ridiculous to put it mildly. If this is the case, what a waste of a great, great idea.Thanks again! Edited May 12, 2007 by UMWOOFWOOFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMWOOFWOOFF Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Thanks again Wizard, for your quick reply. Does your manual give you the specifics for the divide feature with linear PCM or the Hi-SP modes? Strange that the time you gave (0.25 second) corresponds to Hi-LP or LP4. Since I've only used SP/regular MD, perhaps my friend was mistakenly referring to those modes; I will have to check and see. But, he definitely at least SAID that in PCM mode the accuracy "seemed like a quarter second increments." Since I don't have first hand use, I will have to wait and get clarification from him on the Onkyo. I'm not going to accept it as gospel.BTW...can I get a copy of that manual?Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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