Analog Recording Not Recognized

[quadnut]

I'm having some problems with an analog recording made on an older Sony home deck model MDS-302. The disc contained some music prior to me adding the new recordings. The RH1 was able to read the disc with the old recording on it, but after adding more material to the disc via the analog input of the home deck, the RH1 no longer recognizes the disc. Tried the disc in three different players and it works in all of them, only the RH1 won't read it, the screen just says "Read Error". Is this some sort of lock out on the RH1 or is it some other problem?

[A440]

What formats were the previous recordings in? The deck seems to be an old SP deck. This is only a guess, but maybe the old ATRAC used by the deck is no longer recognized by the RH1, or a combination of new formats and old formats just baffled the RH1.

Since you have optical out on the deck, I suggest playing it back and recording the whole thing again through the optical in of the RH1. You'll get a full-quality digital recording in a format the RH1 can recognize.

Incidentally, it's still a digital recording, even if the source was analog.

[Strungup]

hmmm , I wonder if the RH1 was in HiMD mode when he recorded the new material , so now the disc in part Himd and part SP , that might be confusing it .

[Strungup]

That's impossible, an MD can't be in both formats. Going -recording- on the same disc in another format formats -erases- whatever previously was on the disc.

Actually it can be done , I did it on a couple of discs and they wouldnt play on my 930 but would in the RH1 it was weird . you actually have to Format the disc to erase it , but try this , take and put the RH1 in HiMD mode Set rec to HIsp not PCM , then record something on a standard unit in SP mode or LP mode it wont matter . then put the disc in the RH1 , , do End search , and record on the RH1 , that file will be in HiMD mode but on a disc that is formatted standard Atrac , what happened with one of my files , was a disc that was in Standard , had some practice sessions on it , then I captured something with the RH1 and the AT822 , I thought the RH1 was in Reg md mode but it wasnt it was in HiSP recording , the file actually played in my MZ-B10 but it read as LP mode but the Audio was funky and the timing was way off .

[quadnut]

I tried a few things to experiment with the problem. As far as I can remember, both recordings were done on the same machine (MDS-302) in SP mode. Playing back on the MDS 302 or any other non HiMD machine I had access to seemed to be no problem, it was just the RH1 that had trouble.

I used a TOS link cable and transfered the new tracks over to a blank disc in SP mode from the MDS 302 to another recorder. When I tried the new disc, it worked in the RH1. On the new disc, I had left the transfer unattended so the last track had gone over by a large amount. I erased this last track using the MDS 302 and re-recorded it using the same method as before (MDS 302 as playback, record on other SP machine). I tried the disc with the new addition and it did NOT work in the RH1 OR the MDS-302! So this is some sort of weird problem with the TOC perhaps? Strange huh? I then erased the newly added track and voila, it worked again! The only work around I could do was to transfer the original recording, erase the disc, then start over again.

At least I know I can get around the problem now, a little inconvenient, not too bad.

[A440]

Each time you record in SP you are compressing the sound again. You would get better quality recording to the RH1 in PCM.

[quadnut]

Each time you record in SP you are compressing the sound again. You would get better quality recording to the RH1 in PCM.

For some reason I thought a recording from an analog source in SP could be transfered unfettered via the optical output from one MD recorder to another. Thanks for the tip, next time I'm going to try recording in PCM on the RH1.