Problems Recording From a CD with Optical

[zahne]

I hadn't used my MD-MS702 for optical recording from CD to MD until today. I noticed that while it was recording it was marking tracks like normal, then when I sat down to listen to it I found that the first 3 seconds of track were missing. It was set on synchro. Is that the problem? I don't have this issue with synchro on my other MD units. Perhaps there's a delay on synchro? Maybe I can adjust it? I don't have my manual anymore.

Edited June 20, 2009 by zahne

[Strungup]

I hadn't used my MD-MS702 for optical recording from CD to MD until today. I noticed that while it was recording it was marking tracks like normal, then when I sat down to listen to it I found that the first 3 seconds of track were missing. It was set on synchro. Is that the problem? I don't have this issue with synchro on my other MD units. Perhaps there's a delay on synchro? Maybe I can adjust it? I don't have my manual anymore.

hmm I wonder if the optical contact inside the MD is dirty ...... That can happen , also the end of the optical cables must be clean , very clean . Or they dont transfer the data correctly . Try using a little Alchohol to clean the ends of the optical cable , as well Take the battery out and uplug the Md , Disc out etc

With the end of the Cable a little wet with Alchohol put it in the socket and turn it a few times , then remove and let dry for 20 minutes or so , then try the recording again ( Alchohol will evaporate without residue )

Benzine or Acetone , or any other chem will damage the Md so dont use it .

[zahne]

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that out because now that I see the screen on the MD recorder it says Din UNLOCK which means bad connection and I used this cable recently with a different recorder so it may be the socket. I'll give that a shot and report back.

[Strungup]

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that out because now that I see the screen on the MD recorder it says Din UNLOCK which means bad connection and I used this cable recently with a different recorder so it may be the socket. I'll give that a shot and report back.

Yeah DIN Unlock = "Digital Input Locked " or signal isnt getting thru properly , so that means either the CD player isnt putting out ( no girl jokes here ) or the Cable is dirty , damaged or ...etc , or the Md isnt receiving properly .

Basic troubleshooting 101

[KJ_Palmer]

BTW, the MD-MS702 manual can be found here, if that's any help.

[Strungup]

Thx Barock

[zahne]

I just cleaned both ends of the cable and the sockets as you said. The issue still happened except all the other times I'd just hit play and let the recorder to its business. This time I monitored it as it recorded tracks. I noticed that between tracks the CD player doesn't send a signal to the MD recorder so for about 1 second the MD recorder says "Din UNLOCK." Additionally the MD recorder takes about 1 sec to restart sync between songs. I've used this CD pkayer with another MD recorder I used to own and I never had this issue. I have to believe that there must be a setting on the MD recorder to adjust delay between tracks but I can't seem to find it. Is track delay in synchro a typical feature of MD recorders? Or is this a fault in my MD recorder?

[Strungup]

I just cleaned both ends of the cable and the sockets as you said. The issue still happened except all the other times I'd just hit play and let the recorder to its business. This time I monitored it as it recorded tracks. I noticed that between tracks the CD player doesn't send a signal to the MD recorder so for about 1 second the MD recorder says "Din UNLOCK." Additionally the MD recorder takes about 1 sec to restart sync between songs. I've used this CD pkayer with another MD recorder I used to own and I never had this issue. I have to believe that there must be a setting on the MD recorder to adjust delay between tracks but I can't seem to find it. Is track delay in synchro a typical feature of MD recorders? Or is this a fault in my MD recorder?

That is a little disconcerting ..... I dont know what to say . Double check all the menues on your md.

I did find this in the manual though

" ●When making a digital recording from a portable CD player (if the player has a sound

skip prevention function and this function is turned on) the optical output will drop out

and digital recording will not be possible. Be sure to turn the sound skip prevention

function off.

If the Skip Protection in your CD Player is turned on , the Sharp wont agree with it .

Edited June 20, 2009 by Guitarfxr

[zahne]

Hmm, I'll try and see if this CD player has that function and I'll make sure that it's off. I just tried the syncro with a line-in and it made new tracks without any delay so the transfer was great, but I mean I'd like to do optical and line-in isn't as efficient about making tracks since it just looks for silences. But I'll that a try and report back. Thanks!

[zahne]

There doesn't seem to be an anti-skip setting on the player but I found this user review on the unit:

Nice player, good controls. Unit is flawed, however. I called tech support, and they told me to unplug the unit for 30 secs, then plug it back in to try and correct the problem (let the system restore from factory defaults I assume). It did not work. The problem is that it has an annoying pause or "skip" between tracks on a CD. This is (ordinarily) not noticeable unless you have a CD that the sound is continuous from track to track as on a "live" CD, or a few others. It is annoying to the point that this unit rates overall very poorly on my scale.

I think the MD player loses sync between tracks "Din UNLOCK" and then when it receives a signal again it needs a second to get its bearings. This is because of the fact that the CD player doesn't send signal between tracks. I noticed that the optical lasrer is illuminated between tracks. Other units I've used have the laser on continually even between tracks. I think this CD player kinda throws off the recorder when it does this, that's why there's a delay. Let it be known that the RCA RP8078 5 CD Changer is no friend to MD recorders!

[Strungup]

Sounds like we found the issue , That would indeed cause the problem , The MD needs a steady signal from the CD player .

Edited June 21, 2009 by Guitarfxr

[zahne]

Unfortunately I have one more problem! I have a Samsung DVD player with an optical out. I was hoping to use this in my cd changer's stead. I find that with this one, it sends a constant signal but the MD recorder stops after the first track is recorded and the CD continues playing! I tried this with 2 MD recorders so it is definitely on on the Samsung's end. Does this optical issue seem more familiar? oh i hope so!

[Strungup]

Unfortunately I have one more problem! I have a Samsung DVD player with an optical out. I was hoping to use this in my cd changer's stead. I find that with this one, it sends a constant signal but the MD recorder stops after the first track is recorded and the CD continues playing! I tried this with 2 MD recorders so it is definitely on on the Samsung's end. Does this optical issue seem more familiar? oh i hope so!

Some DVD Players have an SCMS system for the audio as well as Video , Mine will do this , if I try to copy the DVD's audio to Md , I have a Doobie Brothers Video , and wanted to "Digitize" the Audio ........ Didnt like that . but I have toys , I have an SCMS bypass tool called MD Saver Pro , that is Optical in /Out , and has a Bypass mode and an Edit mode , in the edit mode , it strips the SCMS code from the Optical signal then sends it to the MD Recorder .

It is getting old , so I dont expect it to last much longer , but has been a fun toy .

[zahne]

Hmm, I guess I'll stick to line in for now. Thanks for all the help!