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Will TOC cloning fool Open MG's check-in process?

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Just a thought with no time to pursue it. If you rip an MD thru Open MG, then clone that TOC onto a 'dirty' MD (blank, but titled), would Open MG then take the cloned MD as the original and check in phantom tracks? Or does it do something with the actual music info, and not just the TOC?

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The way I do it is easier. I have a master backup of my OpenMG Jukebox database. I update this backup every time I make major updates (add more music etc). When I make the backup, I have everything checked in.

Then, I can just delete the database, then restore it with the backup and viola, everything is back to 3 checkouts remaining, no worries.

I also have tried this: I have the program on another computer (and the database, which was a restore from the backup described above) I can make a MD on one computer and check it in on the other to top up the tracks. It doesn't seem to know or care.

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The way I do it is easier.  I have a master backup of my OpenMG Jukebox database.  I update this backup every time I make major updates (add more music etc).  When I make the backup, I have everything checked in.

Then, I can just delete the database, then restore it with the backup and viola, everything is back to 3 checkouts remaining, no worries.

I also have tried this:  I have the program on another computer (and the database, which was a restore from the backup described above)  I can make a MD on one computer and check it in on the other to top up the tracks.  It doesn't seem to know or care.

Leland, sounds interesting, what files do you backup and restore?

Another questions, can you increase the checkout counter this way above 3 checkouts? would be interesting if OpenMG really supports this.

What do you mean by "I can make a MD on one computer and check it in on the other to top up the tracks" esp. the "top up the tracks" I don't understand.

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I use Open MG Jukebox Backup Tool, which is installed with OpenMG Jukebox to do the backup and the restore. You have to be connected to the internet for it to work. Before restoring, I delete the folder that contains all the .omg files. They are in folders. In the default install, this folder is called "Packages" but when I set up the program, I direct the files to another folder at my root directory to keep it out of the user files in the system folder as this causes problems for a system roll back utility I have. This means I am deleting all 18 Gigs of *.omg files on my HDD.

During the restore, the system over-writes the copyright information (at least it says it does) and all the checkout counts revert to what they were when I made the back-up. Therefore, I make sure everything is checked in when I do the backup. As you can see, this will not increase the checkin count above 3.

Using this restore technique, I can duplicate my music database on multiple PC's. Keep in mind, if one PC has had music added to the database, I will lose that when I restore, so I keep one system as a "master" where I do all my updating, then use that to do a backup.

If I make a MD with one computer, it will check in to the other computer and will increment the check-in count. I can therefore increase the check-in count by restoring the database to a second PC, using that to make MD's and use them to add any missing check-in's missing on the master.

Considering the size of the database, the backup and restore processes are relatively quick (say one hour for my DB which has about 18GB and nearly 5000 songs), as long as you use two Hard drives. Once I backed up to the same drive and that slowed it considerably, which is understandable. There is no limitation to using a directory mounted as a network drive, which is great as I can keep my backup in one place and restore to other PC's over the network. The backup/restore program also supports removable media, so I could backup the database to a set of DVD-RW's if needed. Considering the amount of time I have put into loading all my CD's, downloading CD cover artwork, cleaning up CDDB title and genre errors or preferences, I am happy to have a backup.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

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